trouble getting and installing FreeBSD-Java (2)

[Norberto Meijome]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:28:08 -0400
Steve Strassmann <steve at strassmann.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much for the prompty reply. I'm sorry about cc'ing Greg.

hi Steve,
np :)

Please do not top post (don't reply on top , but rather in line, so it's like a conversation). I've moved your reply under my previous mail (and removed as needed for this reply) so it's easier to read. thanks!


> At 5:20 PM +1000 8/13/07, Norberto Meijome wrote:
> >On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:06:18 -0400
> >Steve Strassmann <steve at strassmann.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, just to let you know further, I downloaded jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586.bin
> >> from Sun to see if I could unpack it and apply your patches.
> >
> >( I've removed Greg from the CC - Please do not CC people directly - it is rude . The obvious exception is if you already have a thread going with them in after sending to the mailing list. Or if you know them personally ;) ) - I can safely assume Greg doesnt want extra copies of emails ;)
> >
> >The ports are part of the system, if you installed them - you can read the handbook ( handily available @ freebsd.org) to know more about the ports.
> >
> >if you want to go down the path of installing from source, simply do (as root , or use sudo / su ):

> Since I am on a FreeBSD machine hosted (and managed) by pair.com, I don't have
> sudo, and I am not an expert on FreeBSD. 

have you got access to root at all? is this is a "virtual server" you have with Pair, or a shared hosting account? 

You may be able to install software from ports as a user (eg, non-root) by changing some critical environment settings, but I've never done it... maybe someone else can say whether it is doable at all or not ? ( someone could be Google too ;) )

sudo is part of the ports, sysutils/sudo ( which really means /usr/ports/sysutils/sudo ) 

> A binary like diablo sounds like
> just the thing, I'll give it a try. The diablo links you provided sound good,
> wouldn't it be a good idea to mention them on pages like
> http://www.freebsd.org/java/ or http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html?

maybe - maybe something to mention to ... hmm... www@ ? ( that usually means the mailing list freebsd-www at freebsd.org )

> >
> >cd /usr/ports/java/jdk15
> >make install
> >
> >The port will tell you what files you need to download (if you have any missing).
> >
> >If you want to save yourself time and troubles, just use a binary distribution like diablo-jdk:
> >
> >cd /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk15
> >make install
> >

> 
> The only problem is that (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml) seems to
> support only FreeBSD 5.5 and up. It looks like my system is running FreeBSD 4.8,
> do you think diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz will be ok? Can you
> direct me to a URL for the older builds?

sorry, don't have any at hand :(

> 
>   pair.com> uname -v
>   FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Fri Apr 15 13:34:52 EDT 2005     erik5 at koloda.pair.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PAIRqsv

4.8 is rather old (latest 4.x series is actually 4.11 ) - i personally dont think there's anything wrong with running older releases, but you will have these kind of issues with software not supporting it - there have been lots of changes since the 4.x release,specially regarding the ports tree (which cannot be pinned down to support one version of freebsd, unlike /usr/src itself). Can you get an upgrade to a newer OS release? 

B

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