kqueue of a nfs mounted file not working

Daniel Braniss danny at cs.huji.ac.il
Wed Nov 18 09:49:15 UTC 2015


> On 17 Nov 2015, at 04:05, Alfred Perlstein <alfred at freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/16/15 6:00 AM, Rick Macklem wrote:
>> Daniel Braniss wrote:
>>>> On 15 Nov 2015, at 17:26, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:22:55AM +0200, Daniel Braniss wrote:
>>>>> HI,
>>>>> I???m writing a program to monitor a file using kqueue(2), if the file is
>>>>> local
>>>>> all is OK, but if the file is via a nfs mounted fs, it only works once.
>>>>> stat shows the file growing, but kevent is not triggered.
>>>> Does file grow due to local changes on the nfs client, or some other
>>>> client changes the file, while your client tries to get kevent
>>>> notifications ?
>>> it gets updated by a host which has the file as local, so yes, it gets
>>> updated
>>> by another client/host.
>>> 
>> Hmm, I am not surprised that this doesn't work. The only indication to the
>> client that the file has changed on the server is a change in the file's
>> attributes when they're acquired (via a Getattr RPC or similar) from the server.
>> 
>> There is a vfs operation called VFS_SYSCTL(). This isn't implemented on
>> the current NFS client. It was implemented on the old one, but only for
>> NFS locking events and I didn't understand what needed to be done, so I
>> didn't do it.
>> Kostik, do you know if there is a VFS_SYSCTL() call done when the kevent
>> stuff is probing for a file size change? (Or does it not probe and events
>> get triggered via the write syscall or ???) I took a quick look at the kevent
>> stuff, but admit I got lost and couldn't figure out what triggered events
>> being logged?
>> 
>> Also, is the event for "file growing" or "file changed"?
>> If it is the latter, all the NFS client can do is look for a change in
>> the file's modify time and this is often at a resolution of 1sec., which
>> implies that a change within the same second as the previous one may not
>> be noticed. (NFSv4 has a Change attribute that is always guaranteed to
>> change, but that is only NFSv4.) Also, you see metadata changes as well
>> as data changes, at least for the NFSv4 attribute.
>> 
>> rick
>> 
> Hello Rick,
> 
> I implemented the VFS_SYSCTL work in NFS.  The goal was to allow a path to query filesystems via sysctl.
> 
> This was used in OS X to provide a way to query the filesystem for "events".
> 
> https://github.com/opensource-apple/xnu/blob/10.10/bsd/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c#L5188 <https://github.com/opensource-apple/xnu/blob/10.10/bsd/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c#L5188>
> 
> For NFS you want to inform the user that an nfs filesystem is down, or the locking daemon is down.  That was inside a GUI you can pop up a dialog box to allow the user to force-unmount or turn off locking.
> 
> Image you're connected to multiple NFS shares inside of X11 or whatever windowing system you have.  Then there is a network outage.  You'll want to know which filesystems are not responding and why.
> 
> -Alfred
> 
> -Alfred

I found a workaround, not elegant, but works,
I added a timeout to the kevent instead of Null.
so now it’s working in busy wait  mode instead of event driven.
I you plant add themishing links, I can heliport with the testing.

thanks,
	danny




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