Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

[Chris Rees]

On 17 Sep 2012 17:22, "Tom Evans" <tevans.uk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Zhihao Yuan <lichray at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I definitely agree with this. Sun has a book, "UNIX Essentials
> > featuring the Solaris...", and GUI takes a big part in the book. A
> > default GUI is essential to a modern UNIX. FreeBSD can no longer
> > regard GUI as a third-party bonus.
>
> This is according to *your* use cases though. There are many of us who
> do not put X - or any graphical environment - on our FreeBSD servers.
>
> If FreeBSD did not regard a GUI as an optional 3rd party component,
> that would mean bringing Xorg, and a specified default WM into base -
> potentially even dbus and hald as well. IMO that would be a waste of
> time and resources, as both Xorg and most WM have rapid development
> changes - just look at how many issues are brought up on x11@ when
> there are new upgrades of Xorg available.
>
> As well as this, Xorg versions would have to remain relatively stable
> during minor releases, meaning if you DO want X11, then you are being
> hamstrung by requiring it in base.
>
> Status quo for me please.

Time and time again, this comes up.

Being official does not mean it should be in base.

Chris