continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

Evren Yurtesen yurtesen at ispro.net
Mon Oct 6 19:38:40 UTC 2008


Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen at ispro.net 
> <mailto:yurtesen at ispro.net>> wrote:
> 
> [regarding r1soft.com <http://r1soft.com>, ...]
>  
> 
>     I am not saying it is impossible. They just need somebody to put
>     them to right track I guess. I personally cant do that. It would be
>     nice if somebody who has knowledge in this area contacts r1soft. At
>     the very least r1soft seems to be willing to communicate on this issue.
> 
>     Continuous backups as well as bare-metal-restore seem to be a key
>     feature for many hosters. FreeBSD is loosing users because of this
>     issue.
> 
> 
> Actually, having looked at the site, the hammer filesystem and it's 
> replication strategy seem to be the most applicable technology (but then 
> you wouldn't even need these guys --- you'd be doing it yourself).  Like 
> anything, though, live applications will require special treatment.  
> Keeping a live filesystem replicated does in no way guarentee that your 
> database (for instance) will be sane at any particular moment.  It 
> sounds like these guys have made allowances for MySQL (they specifically 
> mention it), but this won't help the PostgreSQL users, etc.

I think you didnt get the point here. Replication or mirroring != 
backup. You cant return back to how things were 1 hour ago.

Also they support postgresql as well (while its usage is way smaller 
than mysql)
http://www.r1soft.com/CDP_db_postgreSQL.html

In any case, the product guarantees that it can return your databases to 
any point in the time. Do you see what you are missing? :)

> I've spent a lot of time thinking about redundancy and I've come to one 
> inescapable conclusion: That the further up the stack you design for 
> redundancy, the cheaper and easier it becomes.  Most databases have 
> replication strategies of one type or another that don't require exotic 
> hosting solutions to work.

The idea/problem is not redundancy here, it is data protection.

Thanks,
Evren


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