Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

[Rob Lytle]

Hi Kevin,

The sysinstall dependency problem  has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that
its unique to me.  It has occurred in every installation I have ever done.

I use portupgrade for all ports.

i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages.  I don't have the
time to waste compiling.  Plus, you are presented with numerous nag screens
so you have to babysit the whole process.

Rob.

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Kevin Oberman <oberman at es.net> wrote:

> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700
> > From: "Rob Lytle" <jan6146 at gmail.com>
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-current at freebsd.org
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war.  All I wanted was two things:
>  1.
> > CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times.
>  That
> > was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD.  I didn't even know the DVD
> > install existed, but will do that next time.
>
> You call this a flame war? It's been pretty civil and there are no scorch
> marks on my display.
>
> I agree that the disk swapping is not a good thing, but I simply avoid
> it by never installing packages from sysinstall. I only use sysinstall
> for FreeBSD.
>
> Once I have FreeBSD installed, I update my ports tree with csup (but
> portsnap is probably a better way) and install ruby and
> portupgrade. Then I simply install the ports/packages I want using
> 'portinstall -P'. This assures that I have the latest ports and not
> something stale. I can speed the process by copying all of the packages
> from CD to my system (/usr/ports/packages/All). That way, only ports
> that have been updated since the release will be downloaded and I only
> have to change CDs a couple of times.
>
>
> > 2.  Being able to use Sysinstall and not having it crash when a
> dependency
> > is already present.  Sometimes I like to use Sysinstall to  install
> gigantic
> > packages where the compile time is 26 hours, e.g KDE metapackage, and my
> > notebook uses an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2Ghz or thereabout.  That is one
> hell
> > of a long compile time.  For this request I will just have to wait for
> > FreeBSD 10.0.
>
> I have not seen this, but I don't sue sysinstall to install
> packages/ports.
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