SoC
Garrett Cooper
youshi10 at u.washington.edu
Fri May 18 03:46:31 UTC 2007
Duane Whitty wrote:
> On Tuesday, 15 May 2007 at 1:05:07 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> Tom Evans wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:17 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>>> Ruby's nice, but it's built on Perl so I have suspicions on its overall
>>>> usability / speed given my experience with Perl over the past 4 months
>>>> daily for work :(.. Ruby's just the new big thing for programming
>>>> languages, so everyone's into it. Kind of like how Java was compared to
>>>> C/C++ a few years back. But once everything dies down people will
>>>> realize that they'll still have to program in C/C++/Perl for real-world
>>>> applications.
>>>>
>>>> Python seems better than Ruby from what I can see, but I really don't
>>>> like the mandatory indentation thing. Ew..
>>>>
>>> Rubies are better Perls. That's the only connection between the two. One
>>> day, a Japanese programmer got fed up with Perl, and wrote a better
>>> language (for varying meanings of better).
>>>
>>> Its not based or built on Perl in any respect.
>>>
>>> Python and Ruby both have the same targets; to speed development time
>>> and increase programmer productivity.
>> But one must make a Perl before one can make a Ruby. Maybe that was what
>> I was trying to aim for.
>>
>> Ruby's nice, but it seems like it's going to be a bit passe in a few
>> years like Java was for compilable / interpretable languages.
>>
>> -Garrett
>
> None of this matters
>
>
> My only point is that if you need something quick to explore the format of
> pkgdb.db or INDEX.db you are pretty well assured of finding a tool you
> can work with; Perl, Python, or Ruby. If these aren't sufficient use C.
>
> The pkg_* tools are written in C so in C they will be modified; but no
> harm in doing initial exploration and prototyping with something else.
>
> Let's stay focused!
>
> Duane
Ok, finally dumped the full database. Will analyze closely later on tonight.
Cheers,
-Garrett
PS If you installed ruby-bdb, simply running "make config" in the
ports-mgmt/portupgrade directory and selecting ruby-bdb1 won't do. You
have to go into databases/ruby-bdb, do make deinstall, then go to
databases/ruby-bdb1 and do make install, or something similar.
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