[PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

Murray Taylor MTaylor at bytecraft.com.au
Thu Apr 20 03:55:19 UTC 2006


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org 
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Brooks Davis
> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 9:58 AM
> To: Bruce M Simpson; cokane at cokane.org; Eric Anderson; 
> freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC
> 
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:46:09AM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote:
> > > My point is that we should let our purist values get in 
> the way of others'
> > > enhanced experience using the system.
> > 
> > My view is: We take the patch, as long as it doesn't interfere with 
> > the internal machinations of rc too much.
> > 
> > There are good aesthetic and functional arguments on either side.
> > Given the excellent work on rc to date, we have clean 
> abstractions in 
> > rc itself, so fitting colour-aesthetics in does not have a high 
> > maintenance cost.
> 
> I agree with this line of reasoning.  So long as things are 
> kept modular and don't cause maintance headaches when working 
> on the internals I'd like to see this sort of work encouraged 
> and encorporated into the tree.  While there's something to 
> be said for console output that shows everthing there's also 
> something to be said for console output that only shows whats 
> actually important.  Giving people room to explore other 
> options could yeild something much better than what we currently have.
> 
> -- Brooks

My 0.02c worth - one of the Unix precepts for command line tools
is silence = no error

This is to consciously aid and abet the pipelining of programs....
Which is a major strength of Unix..

>From "The Art of Unix Programming"
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch01s06.html#id2877684
Also
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch11s01.html

The whole site is a good read.


And Albert speaks well too (see sig below)

mjt

--
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
direction."
--Albert Einstein
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