Accessibility questions

[Peter Laursen]

Hi Joe,

Thank you very much for your answers, they were just what I was looking for.

I cannot explain why Firefox 3 doesn't work from ports when it works from
packages. But since libxul is built using a Firefox 3.0.X gecko engine,
this explains why Orca and Firefox 3 are able to communicate.

If I was to re-build Gnome from ports, is there any way that I can make
sure that libxul is used as the only gecko engine?

Again, thank you for the answers you have provided so far.

Regards,

eter.

> On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 00:02 +0200, Peter Laursen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have various questions about Gnome and accessibility - I have
>> unsuccessfully tried finding these ansers myself. I hope, therefore,
>> that
>> someone on this list has the answers.
>
> While I recognize the importance of a11y, I am not knowledgeable on the
> topic at all.  I'm not sure if you're going to find all the answers
> here.  Speaking for myself, when I was porting apps like orca,
> gnome-speech, and dasher, I simply made sure they compiled, and did very
> limited run-time testing.  I would certainly welcome an a11y expert to
> contribute to FreeBSD GNOME.
>
>>
>> A short background: I am to give a short presentation on Open-source and
>> accessibility to some people who counsel blind people in what software
>> they need to choose. Currently, their only choice is Windows. FreeBSD
>> has
>> shown to be the best platform for Gnome in this respect, especially
>> because of its clear and simple setup and crystal-clear audio.
>>
>> Here, then, follows the questions:
>>
>> 1) On various Linux distributions, an audio file is played when the
>> machine is ready for login. Where does one set this up on FreeBSD? In
>> gdm.conf or in a completely separate place?
>
> That sound right.  I do know GDM does have some a11y integration points,
> but I'm not sure how one would setup a ready-to-login sound.
>
>>
>> 2) When one installs x11/gnome2, gnome-speech is also built. However,
>> due
>> to gnome-speech's detecting installed speech synthesizers on build-time,
>> it would be wise to include a configuration section in the port
>> makefile,
>> allowing a user to choose what speech synthesizer the person would use.
>> I
>> would like to help with integrating this change if possible. I realise
>> that few people would need this.
>
> Sure, patches are welcome.  If you can create something you feel
> comfortable with, I'd be happy to commit your work.
>
>>
>> 3) When one builds Gnome from ports, Firefox 3 is unable to communicate
>> with the Gnome screen reader. If one chooses the Gnome that is built
>> from
>> packages (e.g. pkg_add -r gnome2) and then runs portupgrade -a and
>> installs Firefox 3, Firefox 3 and Orca are able to communicate, meaning
>> that visually impaired people are able to browse the net from FreeBSD.
>> What Gecko engine is used when Gnome is built for distribution with the
>> various FreeBSD versions?
>
> Up until very recently, GNOME components used www/firefox (i.e. FF 2.0)
> for Gecko.  Now they use libxul (i.e. the same Gecko version used by FF
> 3.0.x).  In GNOME 2.28, epiphany will use WebKit, but yelp will still be
> libxul-based.
>
> Hearing that the ports FF 3.0 doesn't work with orca while the package
> version does is very confusing.  If anything, I'd expect the opposite.
> You might try resyncing the ports tree, then remove www/firefox, run
> portupgrade -a to upgrade ports like yelp and ephy, then rebuild
> firefox3.
>
> Joe
>
>>
>> My own test machine uses FreeBSD 8.0 Beta 4. It's an I386-install of
>> FreeBSD.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from anyone who may have some of the answers
>> to
>> the above questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
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