getting my startup stuff working right

[Chuck Robey]

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I have two sorts of problems involved in getting the startup stsuff right, and
because I don't really understand how Gnome handles that, I'm not doing a very
good job of this.  Let me explain the two problems, they might even have a
single answer (I hope).

First, the Konsoles I run.  I like the KDE Konsole over the gnome-terminal, but
I think my problem would be the same for either: I run a 3X3 desktop (9 of
them).  I want one Konsole on desktop 2 (with 6 terminals) and another one on
desktop 3, with 4 desktops.  My problem is, they all seem to go to the same
desktop.  It's very often desktop 2, but sometimes  its 1 (hasn't been 3 yet).
I also want to run a regular xterm on both desktop 1 and 5, run from a tiny
one-line script in my home/bin I call mkterm.  My problem here is that they
never do where I want them to go, and I haven't any idea whatsoever how to
control the placement of these guys.

Another problem is that, very often, extra items get run seemingly on their own.
 Something like having 4 of the xterms show up on desktops 1 and 5, and the only
way I can detect this is to go desktop to desktop, moving everything I see to
check if there are too many somewhere.  Happens sometimes with the Konsoles
also, but the xterms do it more often.

The only way I have them start up is because I manually set everything up on my
first session, and relied on metacity's memory to restart everything.  The two
browsers I have work very, very reliably for this, never having extra sessions
or being in the wrong desktop.

So, if  you could point me at a doc which could smarten me up, I'd appreciate it.
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