When were the stable and release branches actually created?

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com
Tue Jun 9 04:25:22 UTC 2020


I'm unsure of this for sure.

I have a vague memory that we created the release branches when we had
patches for security advisories. But things are fuzzy. Maybe the security
advisories would hold a clue... Maybe the dates line up there?

At the very lease, it would let you know that we created an extra level of
dots referenced in the patches there... This will let you know if this is a
cvs2svn screw up, or a real artifact about the quirky nature of releases
and security patches. CVS doesn't have super great fidelity in discovering
tree-wide events due to small date skews as files are updated one at a
time, each at the then-current gettimeofday().

Stable/5 was cut sometime after 5.2. That's legit timeline. 5 was smpng and
it wasn't stable until two preview releases, and three actual releases into
the process...

Warner

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:36 AM Ulrich Spörlein <uqs at freebsd.org> wrote:

> Hey folks
>
> I'm investigating why the SVN repo differs from what's on the release
> CVS ISOs and of course you'll shout "CVS repo copies" but it would be
> really helpful if there was a record of when in time the various
> branches were created. Because SVN just ain't right.
>
> Here's the pre-SVN stable and releng branch creations in SVN:
>
> r8869 | cvs2svn | 1995-05-30 07:50:54 +0200 (Tue, 30 May 1995) | 2 lines
>    A /stable/2.0.5 (from /head:8852)
> r8882 | cvs2svn | 1995-05-30 10:29:08 +0200 (Tue, 30 May 1995) | 1 line
>    A /releng/2.0.5 (from /head:8881)
> r9211 | cvs2svn | 1995-06-13 20:05:17 +0200 (Tue, 13 Jun 1995) | 1 line
>    A /stable/2.1 (from /head:9202)
> r19327 | cvs2svn | 1996-11-02 11:41:29 +0100 (Sat, 02 Nov 1996) | 1 line
>    A /stable/2.2 (from /head:19320)
> r42951 | cvs2svn | 1999-01-21 01:55:31 +0100 (Thu, 21 Jan 1999) | 1 line
>    A /stable/3 (from /head:42948)
> r57955 | cvs2svn | 2000-03-13 05:59:44 +0100 (Mon, 13 Mar 2000) | 1 line
>    A /stable/4 (from /head:57954)
> r57956 | cvs2svn | 2000-03-13 05:59:45 +0100 (Mon, 13 Mar 2000) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.4 (from /stable/4:57955)
> r57960 | cvs2svn | 2000-03-13 05:59:49 +0100 (Mon, 13 Mar 2000) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.5 (from /stable/4:57955)
> r63491 | cvs2svn | 2000-07-19 08:22:02 +0200 (Wed, 19 Jul 2000) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.6 (from /stable/4:63490)
> r66473 | cvs2svn | 2000-09-30 04:49:38 +0200 (Sat, 30 Sep 2000) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.7 (from /stable/4:66472)
> r75750 | cvs2svn | 2001-04-21 02:04:30 +0200 (Sat, 21 Apr 2001) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.3 (from /stable/4:75749)
> r101416 | cvs2svn | 2002-08-06 10:24:47 +0200 (Tue, 06 Aug 2002) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.11 (from /stable/4:101415)
> r101418 | cvs2svn | 2002-08-06 10:24:49 +0200 (Tue, 06 Aug 2002) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.9 (from /stable/4:101415)
> r107811 | cvs2svn | 2002-12-13 07:54:34 +0100 (Fri, 13 Dec 2002) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.0 (from /head:107810)
> r108855 | cvs2svn | 2003-01-07 05:28:56 +0100 (Tue, 07 Jan 2003) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.10 (from /stable/4:108854)
> r111744 | cvs2svn | 2003-03-02 17:42:41 +0100 (Sun, 02 Mar 2003) | 1 line
>    A /releng/4.8 (from /stable/4:111743)
> r115436 | cvs2svn | 2003-05-31 13:28:29 +0200 (Sat, 31 May 2003) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.1 (from /head:115435)
> r123193 | cvs2svn | 2003-12-07 04:02:28 +0100 (Sun, 07 Dec 2003) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.2 (from /head:123192)
> r133968 | cvs2svn | 2004-08-18 18:37:05 +0200 (Wed, 18 Aug 2004) | 1 line
>    A /stable/5 (from /head:133920)
> r133969 | cvs2svn | 2004-08-18 18:37:06 +0200 (Wed, 18 Aug 2004) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.3 (from /stable/5:133968)
> r133971 | cvs2svn | 2004-08-18 18:37:08 +0200 (Wed, 18 Aug 2004) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.4 (from /stable/5:133968)
> r147906 | cvs2svn | 2005-07-11 06:14:43 +0200 (Mon, 11 Jul 2005) | 1 line
>    A /stable/6 (from /head:147905)
> r147907 | cvs2svn | 2005-07-11 06:14:44 +0200 (Mon, 11 Jul 2005) | 1 line
>    A /releng/6.0 (from /stable/6:147906)
> r147908 | cvs2svn | 2005-07-11 06:14:45 +0200 (Mon, 11 Jul 2005) | 1 line
>    A /releng/6.1 (from /stable/6:147906)
> r147921 | cvs2svn | 2005-07-11 06:14:58 +0200 (Mon, 11 Jul 2005) | 1 line
>    A /releng/6.2 (from /stable/6:147906)
> r147922 | cvs2svn | 2005-07-11 06:14:59 +0200 (Mon, 11 Jul 2005) | 1 line
>    A /releng/6.3 (from /stable/6:147906)
> r158462 | cvs2svn | 2006-05-12 03:09:20 +0200 (Fri, 12 May 2006) | 1 line
>    A /releng/5.5 (from /stable/5:158461)
> r172506 | cvs2svn | 2007-10-10 18:59:15 +0200 (Wed, 10 Oct 2007) | 1 line
>    A /stable/7 (from /head:172505)
> r172507 | cvs2svn | 2007-10-10 18:59:16 +0200 (Wed, 10 Oct 2007) | 1 line
>    A /releng/7.0 (from /stable/7:172506)
>
>
> I think stable/5 being created after 5.2 is what actually happened
> (IIRC), but 4.3 getting created after 4.7 and 4.11 predating 4.10 and
> 4.8 is highly bogus.
>
> Is there a record of when these things actually happened? Do I need to
> trawl through newvers.sh for all of these?
>
> For example, in the releng/4.11 branch it gets first deleted, then
> r138454 brings it back on 2004-12-06 14:39:45 (that's about 2.3 years
> later)
>
> Thanks
> Uli
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