FreeBSD 13.0-RC5 Now Available

Rodney W. Grimes freebsd-rwg at
Sun Apr 4 09:45:10 UTC 2021

> On 4/3/21 3:34 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> > The fifth RC build of the 13.0-RELEASE release cycle is now available.
> > 
> Beautiful. If we see RC8 then that is fine. Testing is a wonderful
> process and I feel far better about a well tested release than an
> instant "oops" with 13.1 kicked out a week later.

BUT this is not more testing for the sake of good testing, this
is purely incidental testing because of regressions in the product.
This is, IMHO, the worst kind of testing.

> Also, I really am waiting to see the ten year old bug 159356 laid
> to rest :
>     [zfs] [patch] ZFS NAME_ERR_DISKLIKE check is Solaris-specific
> Sort of a thorn in my side for years. Regardless, release candidates
> are a "good thing"(tm).

Not really, they indicate a lack of Quality Assurance and Control,
and without those principles you can test tell your blue in the
face and never actually get anyplace.

There is a premise in the product quality assurance sector,
"You cannot test in quality".

> -- 
> Dennis Clarke
> UNIX and Linux spoken
> GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes at

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