[rfc] removing the NDISulator
John Baldwin
jhb at freebsd.org
Wed Oct 23 18:40:59 UTC 2013
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:11:29 pm Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 23 October 2013 11:09, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Eh, having taken a stab at porting the bwl blob already, I would strongly
> >> oppose removing NDIS. If you do that I will just stop using my netbook
> >> with a Broadcom part altogether as I wouldn't be able to use it to try to
> >> test bwl changes. The NDIS thing is a bit hackish, but it is quite
useful
> >> for a lot of folks.
> >>
> >> I have to agree. Deprecation != motivation.
>
>
> I can pull out examples of this not holding true:
>
> * all the giant locking in drivers
> * all the giant locking in VFS
>
> People did pop up and claim ownership of things they cared about. Some
> stuff died, some stuff didn't. There was enough of a motivation by us to
> kill giant off in these pathways so things could continue to evolve. We
> didn't leave the GIANT crutch in forever.
Giant isn't dead yet. :) (And I've done a lot of the de-Gianting FWIW.)
I don't consider ndis in the same camp. Often times there are vendors where
datasheets, etc. are not obtainable, but a foo.sys + foo.inf is.
--
John Baldwin
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