[head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

Brett brett.mahar at gmx.com
Sat Nov 10 12:54:11 UTC 2012

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:34:24 +1100
Peter Jeremy <peter at rulingia.com> wrote:

> On 2012-Nov-10 09:16:32 +1100, Brett <brett.mahar at gmx.com> wrote:
> >Just an observation: a few years ago when I got sick of Linux's
> >"headlong rush" development model, I subscribed to various BSD
> >mailing lists to see what else was out there. I considered FreeBSD at
> >the time - there was a neverending avalanche of "[head tinderbox]
> >failure" messages.
> The Project tries to avoid it but occasional build failures on the
> development branch are very likely to occur.  As a new user, you
> would be much better off starting with a release branch.

I used 9.0 and release candidates for a couple of months beforehand so i would know what "usually" works and doesn't work before, trying current out. Compared to many of the old timers out there I guess this makes me very new still, though!

> >This told me that I would be more likely to be running code written
> >by people who knew what they were doing if I went with Open, Net, or
> >DragonflyBSD.
> I think that's being unfair.  Do Open, Net or DFly have an equivalent
> to the tinderboxes that do automated test builds and report failures?
> And, since you have replied to an ARM failure, DragonflyBSD would not
> be an option since it doesn't support ARM.

The point I was trying to make (context lost in the partial quote above) was not that it is better or worse than the other BSDs, but that at the time (maybe 3 years ago) when I was looking around to alternatives to Linux and reading the various mailing lists, this was the impression I got. I am sure other people must see these daily failures and get the same impression. Whether this is fair or not has nothing to do with what impressions people form, and what OS they subsequently decide to install.

As I recall reading, the tinderbox was established due to the high incidence of build failures. In my original post on this thread, I was commenting not on the failure of ARM build in particular, but chiming in after Doug Brewer's request for the code to be tested before being committed. If anyone else had backed him up I would not have felt the need to write.


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