[patch] Problem with two NIC on same NET (in_scrubprefix:
err=17, new prefix add failed)
onwahe at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 17:58:49 UTC 2011
I try to desribe the whole matter. In the simplest case, I have two
routers - each with two un-numbered interfaces connected in parallel.
Real data flow is managed in hardware. IP layer is used for managing
the hardwares, so I only need to be able to communicate with neighbour
thru one from two links. It's not important which one is used, but if
one link is down then the other must be used (if it is up). Now, it
works on my table and the patches are made public.
(To be perfectly honest, sometimes I need to send message thru given
interface to know that communication thru this link is possible, but
it's another - IP_SENDIF - story and I'm prepared to re-open a thread
on it. Well, I've used Bruce M Simpson IP_SENDIF patch on current and
it works really fine for me.)
I've started my work with not point-to-point interfaces and I've
found two problems. The first one - I've mentioned it in the beginning
of this thread and the fix is committed already. The second one -
submitted patch and description is bellow:
If both interfaces are on same net and one (which installed network
route) is going down, then the network route is replaced by network
route of the other interface and everything is OK. I can access the
network thru the other interface. However, if the second interface is
going down too, then the network is replaced by network route of the
first interface even if it is down. It is not OK. Futhermore, if the
second interface is going up, then the correct (working) network route
is not installed as a network route with same prefix is installed
already but by interface which is down. So, I can't access the network
and it is bad really.
I have no problem with loopback routes when I work with not
point-to-point interfaces as I can NOT set same source address on
them. However, if the interface is going down and up, then loopback
route is deleted without checking IFA_RTSELF flag (it must be
consistent! especially in kernel) and re-added regardless of
"useloopback" setting. So, at least, a loopback route is installed
even if useloopback is NOT allowed!
After that I've continued with point-to-point interfaces on same net,
i.e. I've work with un-numbered interfaces. Firstly, I could not set
parallel links on them. The fix is following and is already
The test case is simple. When the second (parallel) link was being
set then network prefix (already installed by first interface) was not
found (lookup by source address instead of destination one) and
re-adding was failed obviously as the route really was installed.
The bigger problem was with loopback routes on un-numbered
interfaces. In in_ifinit(), when un-numbered interface is setting
loopback route, then refcount on existing route is incremented and
IFA_RTSELF flags is set on its address. This is done if and only if
useloopback is set and interface is not IFF_LOOPBACK. It is OK. The
rest is hacked somehow and I don't know why.
In in_ifscrubprefix() which is used either when address is being
deleted or interface is going down, I found first inconsistence.
Refcount on existing route is decremented always (in both cases), but
the route is deleted only when address is being deleted. Futhermore,
IFA_RTSELF flag is NOT cleared when refcount is decremented! The fix
and behavour is following:
When two unnumbered interfaces are set and one of them is going down,
then refcount on loopback route is decremented, but IFA_RTSELF flags
remains set on interface address. It's inconsistent. After that, if
address on second interface is being deleted, then loopback route is
deleted too. No loopback route exists, but one interface has
IFA_RTSELF flag set.
In the view of this inconsistence, I understand a next one in
rip_ctlinput(). When interface is going up, then loopback route is
being deleted and re-added regardless of IFA_RTSELF flag and
useloopback setting. If un-numbered interfaces are used, then it
damages refcount on existing loopback route!!
IMHO, as loopback routes are not touched when interface is going
down, then the routes should be untouched if the interface is going up
too. It's the simple patch, but don't work without previous one.
However, useloopback complicates it. So, I'm proposing the following
If useloopback IS NOT set and IFA_RTSELF IS set, then loopback route
is deleted, but with correct refcount game. And if useloopback is SET
and IFA_RTSELF IS NOT set and interface IS NOT IFF_LOOPBACK, then
loopback route is added, but again with correct refcount game too. It
(with previous patch) should ensure IFA_RTSELF and loopback route
Well, it's genesis of the patches and I think it is good case to make
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Li, Qing <qing.li at bluecoat.com> wrote:
>> I've continued with work on two NIC on same NET. Now, with
>> point-to-point interfaces too and I have more small fixes which I
>> submitted today:
> The fix is not entirely correct. The "rtinitflags()" could set RTF_HOST flag when the interface
> type is IFF_LOOPBACK, not necessarily a PPP llink.
In fact, I'm not really happy with rtinitflags() used in places, where
RTF_HOST flag should be tested. However, even if it is not my code, I
understand that the thing with IFF_LOOPBACK could be problem.
> I need to run some tests on your patch, but keep in mind the LLE_STATIC is sort overloaded
> to take care of the case where static routes are maintained in the routing table while dynamic
> routes are removed when the interface is taken down.
Yes, I think that LLE_STATIC is a little bit misused too, but I try to
make my patch consistent with current implementation.
>> I have one more related problem, but I'm not sure how complex the fix should be.
>> When an interface is marked down a network route is deleted (or
>> replaced) and a loopback route persists in routing table. It is OK.
>> However, when an interface is marked up again, then a network route is
>> installed unconditionally (but error is ignored) and a loopbak route
>> is deleted and added immediately and unconditionally too. IMHO, it is
>> not correct behaviour. I think that a second half of in_ifinit()
>> should be here starting by in_addprefix() call with some small or
>> bigger changes.
> Unless you have a really good reason, other than code inspection, and have
> a set of test cases, please leave this code alone for now. See below ...
I have good reason, but I can hack kernel just for me only in worse
scenario. However, I always try to minimalize the hacks count.
>> Maybe, adding network route and ignoring error could be OK, but
>> deleting loopback route should be done under IFA_RTSELF flag is set
>> condition (with existing route refcount check). V_useloopback should
>> be check before re-adding the route and existing route must be check
>> to evaluate refcount correctly. The proposed patch is attached.
> Did you read my code comment in "in.c", at line 1115 ?
Yes, I've read it. However, it's really done only when an interface
address is being deleted and LLE_STATIC is given. If an interface is
going down, then loopback route is untouched (except of mentioned
inconsistence with refcount).
>> However, I prefer to call in_addprefix() (which is static now) instead
>> of rtinit() and add some more checks from in_ifinit(). Can you (or
>> anyone) review the patch?
> There are quite a few cases to cover, including bootp, which takes a different code path
> than DHCP through the routing code. I would appreciate that you test these cases before
> making any code commits. It's taken some time to get the overall routing code stabilized.
> There is still a bug in the Radix code that needs fixing.
> -- Qing
I understand, but I use my own DHCP client. Well, I try to look at it,
but maybe, someone else can test it.
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