Anyone else seeing this (cvs wierdness)?

Peter Wemm peter at
Fri Jun 6 23:12:09 UTC 2008

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, David O'Brien <obrien at> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:24:40AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:55 AM, David O'Brien <obrien at> wrote:
>> > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:12:39PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
>> >> Recently - I guess in the last month or two - successive cvs updates
>> >> always "updates" files in the following directories, this with no
>> >> update to the CVS repo:
>> >>
>> >> cddl/contrib/opensolaris
>> >> contrib/ntp
>> >> contrib/ipfilter
>> >> contrib/expat
>> >> contrib/tcsh
>> >>
>> >> I sync a local CVS repo using cvsup and I update my source using
>> >> 'cvs -q update -PdA'
>> >
>> > Why are you always using "update -A"?  Basically all the reports of
>> > weirdness are due to folks not fully understanding what -A does and is
>> > for.
>> >
>> > If -A removes stickly dates, tags, and (what you're seeing here) stickly
>> > options.  Options can be set locally, in the ,v file on the server.  Some
>> > keywords (such as $Name$) may need to be updated due to "update -A".
>> We use -A because we've often messed with sticky dates and tags in our
>> checked out copy and want to reset anything we've forgotten and start
> ..
>> This is not what is happening now.  If the server has a nonstandard
>> rcs keyword expansion mode, cvs fetches a fresh copy, each and every
>> time.  Even if the checked out copy has the correct expansion mode.
>> Over and over and over again.
> Talk to the CVS developers (and read the bug report trail that lead to
> this change).  This behavior is intended.  I'm not saying I care for it,
> but its not a bug.

It is a bug.  The old working behavior is what we've come to depend on
and there is no replacement for the 'reset sticky tags and dates' mode
that we *need*.

Unless we have a way to get the old behavior back, we still need this
backed out to the state it was in 6.x and 7.x, where it !^%@$#^!%@#!@#
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