XEN and ZFS Status?

Kip Macy kip.macy at gmail.com
Sat Jan 26 21:36:30 PST 2008

On Jan 26, 2008 9:26 PM, David O'Brien <obrien at freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:15:47AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote:
> > This has been sufficient for quite a few people to get up and running.
> > I think Scott's irritation may stem from the fact that reality
> > contradicts your statements.
> Funny - from what I've seen on IRC scottl has had quite a bit of trouble
> getting it running (saying up to what 6am trying to get it working) and
> then having to ask you personally questions on why he couldn't get it
> working.
> It also seems from what I've seen much work is still ahead.  That
> reality really is you have a cool technology demo - but as DES says - Xen
> is not supported.  Can I file PRs against Xen and expect to have the
> reported problem fixed?
> I do like what you're doing - I really do.  But I think its a disservice
> to users to create an expectation that a mer mortal can get it up and
> running from the bits in Perforce without a lot of effort.

Correct. However, "unsupported" is a lowest common denominator
response. Particularly given that I have not claimed that it is
production ready. It would have been quite reasonable in private
communication as it is accurate and if the questioner's only interest
is in near-term production use he will know not to pursue it further.
However, other people use the list archives seeking information and
there are a large number of people out there who don't want to use it
in a production environment in the near-term or are more generally
interested in the fact that there is work going on. These people can
provide useful feedback and bug reports. Continued language lawyering
is pedantic at best and going in to histrionics about the possibility
of my changing my mail server configuration probably only provides me
with entertainment. Both only serve to add further noise to what was
at best a faint signal to begin with.


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