FreeBSD's problems as seen by the community

Timo Schoeler timo.schoeler at
Fri Jan 11 07:15:48 PST 2008

Thus Harti Brandt <hartmut.brandt at> spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008
15:59:52 +0100 (CET):

> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> TS>Thus Harti Brandt <hartmut.brandt at> spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008
> TS>14:59:26 +0100 (CET):
> TS>
> TS>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> TS>> 
> TS>> TS>No, I didn't. I said that the work is done ineffectively as
> TS>> TS>he's doing underprioritized stuff. Working on higher
> TS>> TS>prioritized stuff would be more efficient, and would help the
> TS>> TS>project even more.
> TS>> TS>
> TS>> TS>Given the assumption that the developer is able to do both,
> TS>> TS>the Xmas tree as well as importing ZFS v9 into the tree.
> TS>> TS>
> TS>> TS>(I don't see the point that when somebody is really *capable*
> TS>> TS>of doing both things, why should (s)he do the 'lower
> TS>> TS>priority' thing. If you are at the olympic stadium and you're
> TS>> TS>the best sprinter, you wouldn't join the marathon...!)
> TS>> 
> TS>> Sorry, this is just crap. I'm a rather bad guitar player, at
> TS>> least much worse than I'm a programmer. Yet I enjoy playing Joe
> TS>> Pass at 1/4 the speed while I could import ZFS during that
> TS>> time ... People just bring to FreeBSD what they like to do, not
> TS>> what would be the best for you or others. If you want them to
> TS>> change priorities according to YOUR needs, pay them money.
> TS>> 
> TS>> harti
> TS>
> TS>Harti, you didn't get the point. You can also lead you dog into my
> TS>yard, as long as you don't work on FreeBSD noone cares, really. The
> TS>difference is *when* working on FreeBSD *what* do to -- xmas tree
> TS>or ZFS.
> TS>
> TS>I thought this argumentation was pretty straightforward, but
> TS>sometimes 2 +2 is really 5...
> I don't see the difference between working on what I like to work on
> in FreeBSD and leading my dog (if I had one). It's just my choice
> because it is my time. If I'd be paid for working on FreeBSD, it'd be
> different. If I find the xmas tree controller more interesting than
> ZFS why should I work on ZFS?

Because the project would profit more of it than working on
the /dev/uxmas.

> You assumption is that it matters for
> you on what I work,

No, it'd be good for the whole community, what includes/included me,

> but it doesn't matter for me, so I could just
> work on what is good for you.

> Well, this entire thread is just utterly off-topic.

No, it goes down to the very core.

> harti


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