[ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up

sam samira.nox at gmail.com
Mon Nov 5 10:52:03 PST 2007

Please let me know which files you need.


On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:14:50 +0100, Xin LI <delphij at delphij.net> wrote:

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> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> LI Xin wrote:
> [...]
>>>> The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then.
>>> How come the number is so important for you?  What do you think if you
>>> have to drop into single user mode and adjust fstab manually and the  
>>> box
>>> is several thousands of miles away from you after a simple 'make
>>> kernel'?  I think changing this behavior is a big POLA and not the  
>>> right
>>> thing to do.
>> It prevents certain automated config issues that may or may not be
>> issues as stuff moves more mass market... I know FreeBSD unlike Linux
>> has no aim to be a non-techinical enduser OS but I find my self
>> increasingly recommended it as the prefered UNIX desktop enviroment
>> because so stability and the general ease of using the ports/pkg system
>> compared to RPM's... sad to say many of the end-user oriented tools
>> occasionally make naive but critical assumptions about how a machine is
>> layed out.
> Which tool?  This is apparently a bug of the tool, because the tool
> won't work on Solaris either.
>>>>>  - Wrong SATA type/speed reported
>>>>> More information is needed if you really want to have this problem
>>>>> resolved, like atacontrol output, etc.
>>>> See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know all
>>>> the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by several  
>>>> of
>>>> the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IHC9
>>>> owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the  
>>>> wiki
>>>> is aimed at)
>>> Please provide links on the wiki if you really want it to be useful.
>> I am at the end of a long day so I will dig the links up and post them
>> tommorow (and send you copies)
>>> I think the only ich9 issue I am aware of so far is that a specific
>>> model of it is not recognized.  This is fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7.
>> If you don't have an ICH machine I invite you to get one and verify the
>> issues ;-)
> Mine has no problem, and I can not afford to buy a new piece of hardware
> right now.
>>>> 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is the
>>>> same one I got here
>>> Is the problem still exist for latest RELENG_7 and RELENG_6?  Who can
>>> provide some basic testing for a new snapshot?
>> I csup my version of -CURRENT every day (do a buildkernel anytime there
>> are more then 10 commulative changes):
>> FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov  3 21:33:49
>> EDT 2007     aryeh at monster:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER  amd64
>> and do a build world about once a week plus a ground up rebuild of all
>> ports twice a month... in other words I am as current as anyone and the
>> issues still persist.
> PCI ID and dmesg?
>>> No, it does not help if that's just "it panics", "foo is not supported"
>>> if no detailed information is provided and we don't have our hands on
>>> the actual hardware.
>> I have submitted the complete verbose dmesg, pciutil -l and everything
>> to several people and all of them have come to the conclusion that there
>> is no obvious smoking gone beyond ("it just doesn't work")...  Thus the
>> comment of ICH9 owners are on their own... Next time I reboot I will
>> send you a copy if you really want it.
> Yes, please.  These information is very important for knowing how to
> change the situation, thanks.
> Cheers,
> - --
> Xin LI <delphij at delphij.net>	http://www.delphij.net/
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