[PATCH] Fancy rc startup (revisited)

Robert Watson rwatson at FreeBSD.org
Sat May 12 19:53:06 UTC 2007

On Sat, 12 May 2007, Kian Mohageri wrote:

> On 5/11/07, Eric Anderson <anderson at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Amazing - so far the patch has been downloaded by over 40 different 
>> systems, but the *screenshots* have been viewed by over 500.  Wow.  I never 
>> would have guessed.
>> Still no complaints/comments/etc.  Good I suppose..
> I don't mean to be the Debbie Downer of the list, but I'm not crazy about 
> the addition just because I like simplicity.  I know it's off by default and 
> all, but it reminds me a whole lot of linux startup (Gentoo, specifically, 
> but I dont
> remember where this originated) and I'm more fond of FBSD's as it looks more
> professional.
> Obviously that's just my 2cents though and I'm not a developer, so you won't 
> see me complain if it does get committed :)  Just thought I'd comment since 
> you were looking for feedback.

Call me old-fashioned, but I actually preferred the much more abbreviated rc 
output from before rc.d even. :-)  We're not going back to hardware devices 
where all the probed devices add up to fewer than 25 lines, I'm sure, but when 
daemons generated 8-12 characters without a carriage return each, there was a 
good chance you could still see the end of the kernel messages by the time you 
got to login:, and I miss that.  I don't object to optional more complex 
output as long as that complexity is hidden away neatly somewhere in rc.subr, 
and isn't on by default as shipped.  I'd love it if someone could restore the 
even shorter output we had before.

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge

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