[RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@)
Nikolay Pavlov
qpadla at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 06:29:14 PST 2007
On Monday 03 December 2007 16:19:15 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> [Repost from -ports@]
>
> As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at
> least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should
> remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates
> if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have
> volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what
> changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this
> thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the
> following broad questions for people:
>
> 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports
> system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)?
the underlaying OS
>
> 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is
> the most common interaction you have with it?
upgrading selected ports via portupgrade, at least once per month
>
> 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system?
Automation and simplicity of the port installation procedure, granularity
of ports building process.
>
> 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system?
a management and compilation time overhead when number of installed ports
are significant (for Desktops it's a waste of time and resources);
inability to keep only binary based installations due to lack of official
package updates between RELEASES;
very complicated and not automatic pkg-plist mechanism;
inability to forceably purge the configuration files;
inability to cross-architecture building;
inability to downgrade;
inability to predict download and installation volume for all the
dependencies even for binary installations;
inability to maintain base system as a collection of ports;
> 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above
> change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change?
I'd to use some sort of gui and binary based installation procedure.
> 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you
> use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4?
Yes.
>
> 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3?
Yes.
>
> 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general?
Since FreeBSD 4.7
>
> 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto
> 3)?
Production servers, development boxes.
>
> 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred
> installation method for 3rd party software?
only ports
>
> 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the
> importance of the following aspects of the ports system?
>
> a. User Interface 5
> b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions 1
> c. Accuracy in dependant port installations 2
> d. Internal record keeping 3
> e. Granularity's of the port management system 4
>
> 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level?
High
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