Do we need this junk?

Robert Watson rwatson at
Sat Apr 7 10:40:22 UTC 2007

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton at> writes:
>> Julian Elischer <julian at> writes:
>>> We have a LOT  of old systems running around the world.
>> But the old systems don't need the latest and greatest copy of
>> FreeBSD! This is why we provide errata / security fixes. The systems
>> are a static non moving target ???
> Excuse me?  Who's "we"?
> Julian, Warner, Scott, Bernd, Giorgios, Wilko, myself and many others who 
> have contradicted you in this discussion are veteran FreeBSD developers with 
> something like a hundred years of industry experience between us.
> You, on the other hand are just a pathetic little fuck who has repeatedly 
> demonstrated his complete lack of understanding of anything remotely 
> approaching real computers, real software and real life.
> You do not get to tell us how to run our project.
> You do not get to say "we".


This is getting out of hand.  It's clear that people can and will be running 
FreeBSD on older hardware for a long time to come, and that we can accept or 
disregard this advice -- or even find a middle ground, like determining 
whether shipping additional kernel configurations would help -- without 
turning this into a flame war.

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge

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