[Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel ?]

Brooks Davis brooks at one-eyed-alien.net
Wed Oct 20 14:37:21 PDT 2004


On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:39:53AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> Brooks Davis wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 08:20:48PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> >
> >>Let me clarify it down: it is only applies to HEAD, that is, unstable 
> >>branch, which can be inheretedly buggy. STABLE/RELEASE doesn't really 
> >>need this feature. This dismisses the following objections:
> >
> >
> >I think it's more important in HEAD, but personally I would like to ship
> >this way.  It has the potential to vastly improve the quality of bug
> >reports.  That's not my call though.
> >
> >
> >>1. HDD size constrains: nobody really want to run unpatched HEAD on CF 
> >>or the like, since with HEAD you are expected to re-compile more than 
> >>often.
> >>
> >>2. / partition size: anybody running HEAD is expected to allow this 
> >>accomodate debugging kernel.
> >>
> >>3. Additional slowdown: since it is adds up to 10 seconds (I bet that 
> >>even less on a modern system) who cares? This is HEAD, so that it is 
> >>expected to be sub-optimal performance-wise.
> >
> >
> >I seriously doubt it's measurable.  If it is, the loader is broken. :-)
> >We're talking about reading a section header and doing a seek for each
> >ELF section we don't care about (all the ones that bloat the file
> >relative to the stripped version.)
> 
> Actually, another possbility would be to have the kernel install target
> install the stripped kernel into /boot/kernel/kernel and the debug
> kernel into /var/kernel/kernel.debug or some similar location.

Some place in var seems like a good place to me.  We may want to bump
our default /var size a bit based on this but that's a minor detail.
The nice thing about /var/crash would be that everything you need to
debug a crash dump would be under a single hierarchy.

-- Brooks

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