lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request

[Lawrence Sica]

On Nov 23, 2009, at 3:58 PM, spellberg_robert wrote:

> i thank you, sir.
> 
> 
> 
> Lawrence Sica wrote:
>> On Nov 20, 2009, at 8:40 PM, spellberg_robert wrote:
>>> i thank you, sir, also.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Person, Roderick wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-freebsd-chat at freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat at freebsd.org ]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> > You don't have to do anything.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today.
>>>>> when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't -- learn_how-- to do
>>>>> anything.
>>>>> oops, i digress.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much
>>>>>> irrelevant for LCD displays.  While 85 Hz did make sense
>>>>>> for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not
>>>>>> necessary with LCD monitors.  They won't flicker with
>>>>>> 60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> this is useful to know.
>>>>> while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps,
>>>>> 75 seems to be a popular top_end.
>>>>> 
>>>> You could get an LCD monitor that only has the 15 pin connection,  then you can
>>>> choose refresh rate and play with modelines. At least on the  Viewsonic LCD I have
>>>> which is 5 years old I had to do that to get it working. That is if  you really want to keep doing such things.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it isn't that i --want-- to keep doing this; it is that i --can-- do  so, if i desire.
>>> for my 500ps, i had set up 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960 and  1600x1200; all at 85.
>>> once i had tweaked these to my satisfaction, i left them alone.
>>> this was quite_a_few years ago.
>>> about two weeks ago, i decided to try improving on the 1280x960;
>>> this led to adding 1440x1080, which i like very much, now that i  have used it for a_while.
>>> 
>> An LCD is not like an CRT.  You cannot mess with resolution and expect  it to look good, or even readable in some cases.  LCDs are meant to  run at a native resolution and switching from them is not recommended  in most cases.  In fact if you want to tweak much then a LCD is not  for you.  You don't need to, and really should not, go outside  manufacturer settings on an LCD.
> 
> this thought was a real eye_opener for me.
> i must have spent an hour thinking things over,
>  before reading any sub_sequent posts.
> 
> i got to thinking about the operation of some lcd_televisions that are owned by friends.
> this was the start of my paradigm_shift.
> 
> 
> 
>>> you see, i am a hardware guy.
>>> some fellows tweak gasoline engines.
>>> i met a machinist who built a steam_locomotive at 1:8 scale [ i  think it was a 4_8_4 ].
>>> i have a friend in the flower business [ roses ] who builds chairs  out of wood.
>>> if i had my druthers,
>>> i'd be building small systems out of hcmos 8_bit  single_chip_controllers and msi
>>> [ lately, i have become intrigued by energy_conversion ].
>>> another way to while_away the time is to
>>> build hf_band receivers and [ < 5_watt ] transmitters out of  vacuum_tubes.
>>> winding coils is --very-- therapeutic.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several
>>>>>> monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective
>>>>>> of the manufacturer.  Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that
>>>>>> you haven't seen with your own eyes before.  I'm serious.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> holy moses !!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade  from crt.
>>>> 
>> They are not downgrades, they are just different.  There are pros and  cons to each.  Unless you are doing high end graphics work the main  advantages of a CRT don't really apply.  Things have changed quite a  bit.
>> --Larry
> 
> yes, they have.
> from what i am reading else_where, not for the better, though.
> 

Depends on what you are reading.  In most cases LCDs have caught up to a CRT.  It's really a holy war for some, kind of silly in the face of advances.

--Larry