Venting my frustration with FreeBSD

[Kris Kennaway]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 10:07:50PM -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Monday 04 December 2006 21:10, David Kelly wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> > > If you *do* decide to flame me please take a moment to grep for
> > > josh at tcbug.org through the ports tree, or look for PR's with my
> > > name on them, or browse through the questions@ mailing list
> > > archives looking for responses from me.  I have, and do,
> > > contribute to FreeBSD, which I feel gives me the right to
> > > complain a bit.  I fully intend to ride the FBSD boat as long as
> > > possible, I just can't help but wonder if the slow leaks I see
> > > now are serious.
> >
> > Know what I like best about FreeBSD? That this thread has NOT
> > become a flamefest. That FreeBSD users and developers know the
> > difference between constructive criticism and a troll. Know how to
> > take constructive criticism, and how to ignore a troll. And just so
> > there isn't any doubt, Josh's posting is "constructive criticism."
> >
> > --
> > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly at HiWAAY.net
> > ===================================================================
> >===== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
> 
> I started and run the local BSD user group, and I've always been 
> interested in seeing what the local LUG does, so I read their mailing 
> list.  One of the things I've always noticed is that the LUG mailing 
> list is one big flame-fest.  In the years our BUG has been in 
> existance we've had one thread that was at all hostile, and it was 
> the result of someone posting a bunch of political propaganda during 
> the 04 presidential elections.  We also have an IRC channel on 
> freenode, and just the other day I went to kick someone out for the 
> first time, only to find I wasn't on the access list.  (For the 
> record, the only reason I wanted to kick them is their client was 
> dorked up and caught in a join/part cycle)  What I'm getting at is 
> that the FreeBSD community is for the most part terrific.  For the 
> record I haven't gotten anything close to a flame from anyone, either 
> onlist or off.
> 
> To be fair, I should mention the things that I think are awesome about 
> FreeBSD.
> 
> 1) The ports tree.  Not without it's faults, but if you know how to 
> massage it properly I think it's the best package management system 
> in existance in the open source world....and it's better than any of 
> the proprietary ones I've used from commercial vendors too.
> 
> 2) The documentation.  Chances are, if you want to do it it has 
> excellent OFFICIAL documentation.  My hats off to everyone that 
> slaves away on the doc team.
> 
> 3) The filesystem layout.  Simply fantastic.  The seperation between 
> the base system and 3rd party apps is a godsend.
> 
> 4) The ease of updating the base system.  Sure, there have been some 
> ugly upgrade paths between major version numbers.  (2.x -> 3.x) and 
> the fact that there's no feasible way to get UFS2 without a reinstall 
> making 4.x -> 5.x || 6.x somewhat pointless, but even so, 5.x -> 6.x 
> is cake, as was 3.x -> 4.x which is impressive.  And minor version 
> numbers are of course trivial.

Actually there's something evil you can do involving using your swap
partition as a temporary root mount so you can pivot over onto a new /
and then reinitialize your slice a.  You still need to dump and
restore your other partitions though.

OTOH, UFS2 isn't really necessary unless you need it.

Kris
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