Ugly Huge BSD Monster
Bill Moran
wmoran at potentialtech.com
Fri Sep 5 08:40:18 PDT 2003
Mark Murray wrote:
> Bill Moran writes:
>
>>>Lawsuits are how you _defend_, not how you _conduct_.
>>
>>The crux of the problem, however, is where the fine line between defend
>>and conduct lie.
>
> Sure :-). I am well prepared to concede that there is a rich field
> of Grey Area(tm) to play in.
>
>>If I write a program that does something totally unique (hard to imagine
>>in this day and age, but bear with me) and market it. Then somone else
>>makes a program that does the exact same thing (although, written from
>>scratch), have they violated my rights? Should I defend myself?
>
> Legally, if you have patented your idea/code, then the priveliges
> granted to you (others may call those "rights" ;-) ) would suggest you
> have a defendable case.
>
>>In my opinion, no. They're allowed to write competing software.
>
> In the absence of a patent, sure.
Well. There may be grey areas withing this one example. But I don't
consider the law the Book of Rightness. Just because I have a legal
right to sue someone doesn't mean I'm going to. And, in most cases
I can imagine that fall into this category, I'm not likely to sue -
because of my own personal beliefs.
The one exception would be if I created something, didn't bother to
get a patent on it, and then someone else patented the idea. Before
they could ever get around to filing a patent lawsuit, I would file
some sort of suit claiming they had obtained the patent illegally.
It's possibly that I would lose such a case, and that I'd be much
better off just filing patents and not bothering to enforce them when
I don't feel it's the right thing to do.
>>If I write this program, and someone reverse engineers part or all of
>>my code (or steals the source, etc) and markets that, should I defend?
>>In my opinion, yes. In that case, they are stealing my work, not my
>>ideas.
>
> DMCA.
>
> If I reverse engineer your work, and then write _completeley_new_
> and better code to do the same thing, where are we?
>
> If I take apart your mousetrap to see what oil you use on the hinges,
> where are we?
>
> If I do chemical analysis of your mousetrap's spring to improve the
> spring in my gronkulators, where are we?
See ... these are the situations that freak me out ... mainly because
some of these I'm not sure if I feel I would be right in filing a case
or not. If I'm gonna do something, I prefer to feel that it's the
right thing to do.
>>Altough other people would consider me wrong for my opinion on the second
>>circumstance. Right or wrong, these differences of opinion are the
>>basis for this whole argument and many others that are relevent to our
>>profession.
>
> Agreed. Where abominations like DMCA, and lesser abominations like
> software patents fail is where liars^Wlawyers make their livings,
> and where disreputable "inventors" grovel in their shite for easy
> money.
What a world. How much easier it would be if everyone just tried to
be honest and get along with others. Alas, it's not to be.
--
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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