One last item: CNS1102 support removal

[Mori Hiroki]

Hi

This is RT1310 Target list. Some target have 32M ram.

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/NetComm_NP740n


Thanks

Hiroki Mori

----- Original Message -----
> From: Mori Hiroki <yamori813 at yahoo.co.jp>
> To: Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com>
> Cc: "freebsd-arm at freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>
> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 07:44
> Subject: Re: One last item: CNS1102 support removal
> 
> Hi
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com>
>> To: Mori Hiroki <yamori813 at yahoo.co.jp> 
>> Cc: "freebsd-arm at freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>
>> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 03:01
>> Subject: Re: One last item: CNS1102 support removal
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813 at yahoo.co.jp> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sys/arm/ralink is work fine. Please do not remove this.
>> 
>> 
>> OK. Do you have a kernel config file we can commit to the tree? I don't 
> even know if it compiles, apart from your dmesg posts. I wasn't sure based 
> on your email, so I thought I'd ask for clarification.
> 
> This is kernel configure file.
> 
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/arm/conf/RT1310?view=markup
> 
> 
> dmesg have pci log but not commit yet.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Hiroki Mori
> 
>> 
>> 
>> CNS1102 is 922T which is armv4. I couldn't even find an eval board to 
> try to boot it on, nor any board with more than 16MB on the consumer gear that 
> it's in on ebay. And it's always a pain to get stuff on gear of that era 
> unless you get lucky...
>>  
>> Why do you want remove armv5t ? armv5t is still alive.
>> 
>> 
>> The number of users on armv5t is declining. We're not removing it for 12 
> (since there's several known users), but will have a discussion about that 
> after we branch 12 whether or not we'll keep it for 13. Since there are 
> users, we need to understand the impact of keeping the port or retiring it on 
> them. Unlike these early parts where there's no known users...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warner
>>  
>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hiroki Mori
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com>
>>>> 
>>>> To: Mori Hiroki <yamori813 at yahoo.co.jp> 
>>>> Cc: "freebsd-arm at freebsd.org" 
> <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>
>>>> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 02:37
>>>> Subject: Re: One last item: CNS1102 support removal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Mori Hiroki 
> <yamori813 at yahoo.co.jp> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I make fdt eventtimer intrng to cns11xx.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/ yamori813/ 
> ae047a28a825aac255e436fd8ccaf7 85
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still not work...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clang is very slow on cross compile. It's take 7 hour.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My cns11xx target Planex MZK-W04G is 64MByte ram.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK. I could only find a board with 16MB. 64MB is barely enough these 
> days to do useful things with FreeBSD unless you're a super user.
>>>>  
>>>> It's bigger than rt1310 target.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There's no RALINK kernel config I could find, even though the 
> rt1310 code is in the tree. What have I missed?
>>>>  
>>>> I almost abandon...
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So are you abandoning both platforms? Or just CNS1102?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Are you OK with removing one or both of these platforms?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Warner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hiroki Mori
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  From: Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com>
>>>>>>  To: "freebsd-arm at freebsd.org" 
> <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>
>>>>>>  Cc: 
>>>>>>  Date: 2018/7/18, Wed 22:58
>>>>>>  Subject: One last item: CNS1102 support removal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> T here's one last item in arm land for 12 I'd like 
> to remove: The Econa /
>>>>>>  Cavium CN1102 support.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  It's literally received no updates since it was 
> committed in 2010, apart
>>>>>>  from others doing kernel sweeps. It's unmaintained. 
> Strike one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Second, it will be the last armv4 port in the tree after I 
> remove Atmel. We
>>>>>>  haven't had FreeBSD running on armv4 Atmel since 
> FreeBSD 8. Strike two.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Third, the original machines were released in 2005 or 2006. 
> There's only
>>>>> 
>>  one known board, according to https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ Cavium, and it 
> came
>>>>>>  with only 16MB. So it's old and doesn't have much 
> RAM. While barely
>>>>>>  possible, in theory, to run FreeBSD/arm in 16MB, it's a 
> huge PITA. Strike
>>>>>>  three.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Forth, I can find no mention of it in the archives or bug 
> database. Strike
>>>>>>  four.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I'm lead to the conclusion that this is no longer 
> maintained, has no users,
>>>>>>  the hardware it was in has insufficient resources to run 
> FreeBSD well and
>>>>>>  these things are unlikely to change. Therefore, we should 
> remove it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Comments?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Warner
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