rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago...

John jwd at FreeBSD.org
Tue Oct 3 23:04:39 UTC 2017


Have you picked up the recent changes to the code in your port?

----- Jeremie Le Hen's Original Message -----
> I've slacked a bit but here we are:
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12573
> 
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> So the first step was to create a port with FreeBSD rcmds, here we
> >> are!  But I need some eyes to vet it:
> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11345
> >
> > The port has been submitted and RCMDS are disabled by default from the
> > base system.
> >
> > See you in a month for the removal!
> >
> > -- Jeremie
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >> -- Jeremie
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>> Hey folks,
> >>>
> >>> I remember when I was still barely out of my teenagehood, people were
> >>> mostly using ssh/scp while rtools (rsh, rlogin, ... for the
> >>> youngsters) were left in place as a courtesy for legacy production
> >>> systems still relying it on them.
> >>>
> >>> Fast forward to 2017 (so yes, 15 years later), stack-clash [1] sorely
> >>> reminds us that suid binaries are an attack surface. I don't even need
> >>> to mention that it's a healthy engineering practice to remove unused
> >>> code, both from a maintenance and security perspective.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system.  I
> >>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people
> >>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside
> >>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there
> >>> will be reduced.
> >>>
> >>> The proposed roadmap is:
> >>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month
> >>> - remove rtools from the base.
> >>>
> >>> What do you guys think?  Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt
> >>> --
> >>> Jeremie Le Hen
> >>> jlh at FreeBSD.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeremie Le Hen
> >> jlh at FreeBSD.org
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeremie Le Hen
> > jlh at FreeBSD.org
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jeremie Le Hen
> jlh at FreeBSD.org
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