Retiring in-tree GDB

[Bryan Drewery]

On 10/20/2015 3:27 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 03:14:14PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> 
>> On 10/20/2015 2:50 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 02:25:48PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2015 1:36 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>> However, I would like to propose that we retire the in-tree GDB for some of
>>>>> our platforms (namely x86) for 11.  In particular, I think we should default
>>>>
>>>> Disabling/removing gdb. Definitely. It is unusable in many cases and the
>>>> working gdb is just a 'pkg install' away.
>>>>
>>>>> to enabling lldb and disabling gdb for platforms that meet the following
>>>>
>>>> Why should we include lldb in the base system? It is not needed to build
>>>> or use the system and we can easily provide one from packages.
>>>>
>>>> Arguments about providing a default working system don't work here for
>>>> me as we don't provide perl, python, valgrind, vim, emacs, X11, etc.  We
>>>> can provide lldb and gdb on the default DVD though.
>>>>
>>>> If we are actually going to "package base" in 11, we should not be
>>>> adding new things into base that can easily live in ports. Yes, I know
>>>> lldb is already there but I don't think it should be.
>>>>
>>>> Can the same be said for tools such as truss, ktrace or nvi? Sure. The
>>>> discussion is really "what packages should be installed by default".
>>>> The answer should be "what all, or most, users _need_" Do most users
>>>> need a debugger? I don't think so.
>>>
>>> When you need debuger you may don't have way to install it.
>>>
>>
>> How did you get a system?
>>
>> DVD? 'pkg add /mnt/cd/packages/gdb.txz'
>> Network? 'pkg install gdb'
>>
>> Fetching the packages to a USB drive from another system works too using
>> 'pkg fetch -o'.
> 
> You talk about healty system.
> System may be semi-broken and need some assistance to r/w mount, for
> example.
> 

How does that relate to gdb?

I can only read your example as suggesting we need a /rescue/gdb too.

-- 
Regards,
Bryan Drewery

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