ASLR work into -HEAD ?

Shawn Webb shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org
Wed May 20 15:20:09 UTC 2015


On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 10:43 -0400, Shawn Webb wrote:
> On Friday, March 20, 2015 03:14:30 PM Warner Losh wrote:
> > > On Mar 20, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:17 -0400, Shawn Webb wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 09:28 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > >>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Oliver Pinter
> > >>>> <oliver.pinter at hardenedbsd.org> wrote:>>>> 
> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org> 
> wrote:
> > >>>>> On 19 March 2015 at 12:56, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Apparently this is done but has stalled:
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D473
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Does anyone have any strong objections to it landing in the tree
> > >>>>>>> as-is?
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> There’s rather a lot of them specifically spelled out in the code
> > >>>>>> review.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Many of the earlier ones were kinda blown off, so I’ve not been
> > >>>>>> inclined
> > >>>>>> to take the time to re-review it. Glancing at it, I see several minor
> > >>>>>> issues that should be cleaned up.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Cool. Thanks for taking the time to look at it again.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Shawn is in #freebsd on freenode irc, so if you/others want a more
> > >>>>> interactive review then he's there during the day.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Please CC the core at hardenedbsd.org in future please, when you are
> > >>>> talking about this issue.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Adrian: do you able to review the MIPS or ARM part especially or test
> > >>>> them?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Adrian: Do not commit the changes.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I’ve gone back and re-read Robert Watson’s rather long review and it
> > >>> appears that virtually none of that has been addressed. Until it is, do
> > >>> not commit it. This code interacts with dangerous parts of the system,
> > >>> and the default cannot be to just let it in because no one has objected
> > >>> recently. Objections have been made, they have been quantified, they
> > >>> haven’t been answered or acted upon. Until that changes, you can assume
> > >>> the objections remain in place and asking again without fixing them
> > >>> isn’t going to change the answer.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Warner
> > >> 
> > >> Warner,
> > >> 
> > >> We've fixed the vast majority of the concerns raised in that review. To
> > >> say "virtually none of that has been addressed" and "they haven't been
> > >> answered or acted upon" is a blatant lie. The fact that there are so
> > >> many revisions of the patch is proof. We even made our ASLR
> > >> implementation for FreeBSD less secure by providing a mechanism in
> > >> ptrace() to disable it as requested by a member of the FreeBSD
> > >> Foundation. (This "feature" doesn't exist in HardenedBSD's
> > >> implementation.) If comments like these continue, I will remove the diff
> > >> from Phabricator and close the BugZilla ticket. FreeBSD can feel free to
> > >> pull from us, but we won't make any effort to proactively upstream our
> > >> work.
> > >> 
> > >> With that said, I have missed a few of the concerns raised. There's so
> > >> many comments/concerns in that review that it's easy to miss a few. I
> > >> will address them tonight and upload a new patch tomorrow.
> > > 
> > > I've updated the patch. Is there anything I've missed?
> > 
> > I’ve taken a look at the updated patch and see that it addressed the
> > issues I raised. It almost looks like the update to the review a month
> > ago was the wrong version, since so many more of the original
> > comments appear to be addressed than when I looked. Thanks!
> > 
> > Warner
> 
> I've updated the patch again. Please let me know if there's anything I've 
> missed. Otherwise, I'd love to see this committed in HEAD. :-)
> 

Does anyone have any updates since I last updated the patch over a month
ago? What's needed to get this patch in?

Thanks,

Shawn
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