svn commit: r274739 - head/sys/mips/conf

John-Mark Gurney jmg at funkthat.com
Fri Nov 21 09:22:47 UTC 2014


Mark Murray wrote this message on Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:25 +0000:
> 
> > On 20 Nov 2014, at 08:48, John-Mark Gurney <jmg at funkthat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Should we make random standard now?  We don't live in the 90's anymore,
> > and a system really can't function w/o randomness anymore???
> 
> There is a case to be made for making it default in all/most kernel
> configs.
> 
> I disagree on making it compulsory in all cases, as very small embedded
> systems can easily argue for not having it.

How will it talk w/ the out side world?  w/o random, No sshd, no
https...  providing randomness is a core component of a modern OS...

If you're really going for small embeded, you don't want FreeBSD, or
if you do, you're willing to do the work to manually rip a lot more
out of the standard kernel than just the random driver...  My stripped
down i386 kernel is still over 6MB in size...

> > I'm fine w/ making the various random mixers options, but the core
> > random infrastructure and /dev/u?random should be standard now???
> 
> There is some compulsory infrastructure; this gets you the ???dummy???
> driver which just blocks and never delivers anything.

Plus, you'd need to turn off the entropy boot script among other
things...

If you can demonstrate a usable system w/o much modifications that
runs w/ the dummy interface, or no boot random, that I'll drop my
suggestion...  I'll try removing random tomorrow and see what breaks...

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