Getting rid of the static msleep priority boost
Jeff Roberson
jroberson at chesapeake.net
Sat Mar 8 09:46:01 UTC 2008
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Jeff Roberson wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, John Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Friday 07 March 2008 08:42:37 am John Baldwin wrote:
>>> On Friday 07 March 2008 07:16:30 am Jeff Roberson wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I've been studying some problems with recent scheduler improvements that
>>>> help a lot on some workloads and hurt on others. I've tracked the
>>>> problem down to static priority boosts handed out by
>>>> msleep/cv_broadcastpri. The basic problem is that a user thread will be
>>>> woken with a kernel priority thus allowing it to preempt a thread running
>>>> on any processor with a lesser priority. The lesser priority thread may
>>>> in fact hold some resource that the higher priority thread requires.
>>>> Thus we context switch several times and perhaps go through priority
>>>> propagation as well.
>>>>
>>>> I have verified that disabling these static priority boosts entirely
>>>> fixes the performance problem I've run into on at least one workload.
>>>> There are probably others that it helps and hopefully we can discover
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to know if anyone has a strong preference to keep this feature.
>>>> It is likely that it helps in some interactive situations. I'm not sure
>>>> how much however. I propose that we make a sysctl that disables it and
>>>> turn it off by default. If we see complaints on current@ we can suggest
>>>> that they toggle the sysctl to see if it alleviates problems.
>>>>
>>>> Based on feedback from that experiment and some testing we can then
>>>> choose a few options:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Disable the static boosts entirely. Leave kernel priorities for
>>>> kernel threads and priority propagation. Most other kernels do this.
>>>> Would make my life in ULE much easier as well.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Leave the support for static boosts but remove it from all but a few
>>>> key locations. Leaving it in the api would give some flexibility but
>>>> might confuse developers.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Leave things as they are. undesirable.
>>>>
>>>> I'm leaning towards #2 based on the information I have presently. This
>>>> is almost a significant change to historic BSD behavior so we might want
>>>> to tread lightly.
>>>
>>> One thing to note is that we actually depend on the priority boost
>>> (evilly)
>>> to pick processes to swap out. (I think we check for <= PSOCK and don't
>>> swap those out). One thing that I've wanted to happen for a while is that
>>> the sleep priority for msleep() just be a parameter available to the
>>> scheduler that the scheduler can use to calculate the real internal
>>> priority rather than just being a set. That is, I imagine having:
>>>
>>> void sched_set_sleep_prio(struct thread *td, u_char pri);
>>> u_char sched_get_sleep_prio(struct thread *td);
>>>
>>> (The swap check would use the get call). The 4BSD scheduler's
>>> implementation of sched_set_sleep_prio would look like this:
>>>
>>> void
>>> sched_set_sleep_prio(struct thread *td, u_char pri)
>>> {
>>>
>>> td->td_sched->sleep_pri = pri;
>>> sched_prio(td, pri);
>>> }
>>>
>>> void
>>> sched_userret(..)
>>> {
>>>
>>> ...
>>> td->td_sched->sleep_pri = 0; /* not in the kernel anymore */
>>> }
>>>
>>> but other schedulers may just save it and recalculate the priority where
>>> the priority calculation just considers the sleep priority as one among
>>> many factors. If nothing else, this allows it to be a scheduler decision
>>> to ignore it (so 4BSD could continue to do what it does now, but ULE may
>>> ignore it, or ignore certain levels, etc.)
>>
>> One thing to clarify: I'm not opposed to replacing the PSOCK check with
>> something more suitable in the swap code, (in fact, that would be
>> desirable),
>> but it might take a good bit of work to do that and is probably easier to
>> work on that as a separate change. I also think there can be some merit in
>> having code paths hint to the scheduler the relative interactivity/priority
>> of a sleep.
>
> Couple of notes..
>
> The priority argument to sleep is a reasonable way for the code to hint at
> the relative priority/interactivity. So that argues for leaving these
> arguments in place and making them more advisory. I don't think we have to
> change the api to take advantage of that.
>
> I'll look more closely for places like the swap that care about the absolute
> priority of a process and see what I can come up with. Thanks for raising
> that concern.
>
> I'd like to avoid apis that require the sched lock in seperate steps like
> msleep does now to elevate the priority. So far all sched* apis require the
> thread lock on enter and I'd hate to deviate from that norm. But another
> option may be just to make a globally visible td_sleep_pri that doesn't
> require the lock for write but does for read. The other option is to bubble
> the argument down through the sleepq code and into sched_sleep() and
> sched_wakeup(). I like that the best but it's the most api churn.
http://people.freebsd.org/~jeff/sleeppri.diff
What do you think of this? I added another parameter to sleepq_add() and
sched_sleep(). So the scheduler is responsible for adjusting the
priority. We could do the same thing for wakeup time adjustments like
sleepq_broadcastpri() but we'd have to pass it through setrunnable() as
well.
I'd like to normalize the other pri arguments in sleepq to use the same 0
is not set vs -1 that msleep did. I realize that 0 is a valid priority
but for practical purposes this makes things consistent and does not
really restrict the api.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>>
>> --
>> John Baldwin
>>
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