Accounting changes
Garance A Drosehn
gad at FreeBSD.org
Sun May 6 03:45:43 UTC 2007
At 1:49 AM +0300 5/5/07, Diomidis Spinellis wrote:
>Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>In message <463B581E.6070804 at aueb.gr>, Diomidis Spinellis writes:
>>
>>>On modern processors the various time values were 0, because many
>>>commands took less than 1/64s to execute [bde]. Now time values
>>>are stored with microsecond precision as float numbers.(I've
>>>written code that allows the kernel to write them without any
>>>floating point operations.)
In http://www.spinellis.gr/FreeBSD/acct.h ,
there is a comment which says:
* Time units are milliseconds.
Is it milliseconds or microseconds?
>>Why on earth introduce another time format ?
>>
>>Please use a standard time format please.
>
>If we use struct timeval for the three time values the structure
>size increases considerably (especially on an amd64). Here are some
>numbers:
>
>i386
>Old size=48
>New size=64
>New size with timeval=76
>
>amd64
>Old size=56
>New size=72
>New size timeval=112
>
>On a busy system this increase can be more than 10GB / month. Is
>there some other standard time format I've missed?
Looking at the current version of acct.h, it has a u_int16_t field,
where the value stored is 1/64th of a second, and it's stored in a
special floating-point format (ie, it is a format that we define,
instead of using the native machine floating point).
Does this mean the new accounting record will be using the
native-hardware format for floating point numbers? Does that mean
the records produced will be different for different hardware?
How about going to an u_int32_t field for those three time fields,
and again use a custom-defined format for the floating-point value?
The main reason I suggest this is so we know the format will be
exactly the same on all architectures. We could go with a 4-bit
base-8 exponent (up from 3 bits in the current format), and still
have 28 bits for the fractional-part.
I also wonder about using a time_t for ac_btime (starting time).
Now that we're running freebsd on very fast, multi-processor systems,
we might care whether "<this>-command" executed before "<that>-command",
and we might wish to have better resolution for the start-time of a
given command. This is just an idle thought on my part though, and
it is not something that I have a strong opinion on.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn at rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer or gad at FreeBSD.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA
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