FreeBSD has a politics problem

deb at deb at
Sun Mar 4 22:46:31 UTC 2018

Hi David,

This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The
Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD
Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-information about the
Foundation censoring discussions. Someone else on this thread can hopefully
direct you to the correct mailing list for discussing your concerns
regarding the Code of Conduct. 


Deb Goodkin
Executive Director
The FreeBSD Foundation

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-advocacy at
[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy at] On Behalf Of David Fox
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 15:25
To: freebsd-advocacy at
Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as
the foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but
its irritating that there is no channel, even official to discuss.

> On 04 March 2018 at 20:45 David Fox <fox at> wrote:
> As a young adult user, webmaster and someone's who was trying to construct
a project scope for using FreeBSD as replacement for our pre-existing
systems within a animation studio, this is a let down.
> Diversity is a thing, and yes it's a big thing on the internet and in real
life. I work with it everyday and its tricky. However not only do I feel
offended as it kind of targets me but also embarrassed at the way this is
> How hard would of it been to gone to the community (You do have forums)
"Here's a draft copy of our CoC, people read and get back to us with
feedback by: date" but no its like "Take it or leave it" and reading the
motto of "Shut up and Code And Conduct" from the email leak -- I'm sorry but
that's just so rude. If not insulting.
> My money may not be a sponsorship money but still donated; on belief what
FreeBSD was doing right. Can I get a refund.
> Let me remind what the homepage mentioned when I donated:
> "By donating to the foundation, you are helping us fund and manage
projects, sponsor FreeBSD events, and provide travel grants to FreeBSD
developers. You are also helping us represent the Project in executing
contracts, license agreements, copyrights, trademarks, and other legal
arrangements that require a recognized legal entity." Is the CoC any of
> And now If I am hearing right you're now using my donation money which had
my intent on development and improvement to reach outside and hire someone
who's not even related to the foundation, nor if any have any idea to the
whole world of IT. It's just shameful. Not only does this effect the
foundation but it also ruins the pitch I was hoping to show.. Thanks.
> Having moderators deleting sensible debates. Censorship, and an large
email leak, yeah that really shows maturity. You got racism, rude remarks,
insulting behavior all rolled into one and online now. Just my 2cents.
> I'm just someone who is trying to encourage FreeBSD's growth and someone
in a younger generation which you need to push the drive. Everyone knows
*nix but not really does anyone know FreeBSD. Stop the censorship and
actually start listening to what users have to say. Politics have started to
take over FreeBSD and the foundation is starting to turn blind with age. If
not influenced by those who should really not have any say.
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