CoC does not help in benchmarks
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Tue Jul 17 09:24:59 UTC 2018
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:44:55 -0400
Chad Jacob Milios <freebsd-list at nuos.org> wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Erich Dollansky
> > <freebsd.ed.lists at sumeritec.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > here are the consequences of putting a CoC up high on the priority
> > list:
> > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows-freebsd112-8linux&num=1
> > <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows-freebsd112-8linux&num=1>
> There is NO indication of causality here. Your logic is missing or
you mean, the money spent on the CoC would not helped to develop better
code by getting people willing to code for the same amount of money.
> > Focusing on software would have made FreeBSD do better.
> Fair ‘nuff, let’s do that. What is it that you’re focusing on with
> this message or [ongoing] thread, though?
Just documenting some short comings of the project in its current state.
> Insightful and informative. Thank you, Jeff. I think any of us who’ve
> had any real participation in the various forums of communication
> used by The Project for any significant length of time are familiar
> with the often passionate and sometimes contentious nature of many
> talented and creative people. When a necessary response, which may
> come as drastic, is sometimes taken it’s only made worse if it’s met
> with shock and surprise by the may-be brat throwing the would-be
> You know, Erich, this is a perfectly valid question. I had the same
> very same question myself, and I must say, it’s a mighty fine CoC you
> got here. I see nothing at all wrong with yer short CoC, but see,
> we’re white, we’re men. A small CoC’s always seemed to work well
> enough for us. Ask the women though. See what they think. Ask a
> darker fellow how he appreciates the utility of having the longer,
> broader CoC.
I showed this to my wife. She is not white, and - what a surprise - she
is not make. All she could do is laugh. There was a time, when she
asked if white people are really that bad. The CoC gave a clear answer.
> Core and the CoC committee did _not_ have an easy job to do! No, they
> didn’t do it flawlessly but it seems like it’s so Gawt dayum easy for
> some of y’all to sit back and complain from your easy chair. If you
> actually know how to behave and conduct yourself as a decent human
> being then why t.f. should the prior or current CoC have any real
> bearing on your life _whatsoever_? This is not rhetorical. I am
> seriously asking, please, can someone explain all this butthurt to me?
I come from a background where we say, stop it before it takes over.
What ever bad thing appeared in the past, appeared very smooth, very
gentle, just like this CoC.
> I can admit, i do understand the appeal of the good ol’ days of the
> boyz club. Colorful and loud, outright raucous discourse, i tend to
> enjoy. But we are a bigger project now. Like Warner said, the 90’s
> are over. With all the good we’ve achieved comes some compromises.
> I’d rather support and protect diversity.
The Nineties are over, yes, but is civilisation also over?
> Can anyone actually tell me why they find the long CoC so
> intimidating? Honestly, who really left the project _over_the_CoC_?
> Pointing at our CoC to cast blame is just simple minded and lazy.
> There are PLENTY of problems and issues with the project and the
> software while there are also many very good very hard working people
> doing all that they can to make FreeBSD GREAT, and I think it still
> is. I find discussions about those issues to be infinitely more
> interesting than bickering about our CoC.
Of course, people can work on FreeBSD with the new CoC. But do they
have to work?
The future will tell.
> Much LOVE to all of you. Oh shoot, now did I just trip over FreeBSD’s
> massive CoC?
How come? You are a bad boy. And have a person who makes a fuss out of
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