No Blob without Puffy

Theo de Raadt deraadt at
Tue Mar 20 08:13:19 UTC 2007

Please take this up on lists where it is more relevant.

OpenBSD is not going to participate in a campaign that calls non-free
things free.

We don't tell lies like the other BSD's do.

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:04:12PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> > Hi Pawel,
> >
> > Pawel Jakub Dawidek schrieb am Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:02:47PM +0100:
> > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >
> > >> So isn't it rather hypocritical to have a anti-Blob campaign, backed
> > >> by projects which embrace the Blob?
> >
> > > So isn't it rather hypocritical to claim GPL license is bad and BSD
> > > license is good and ship operating system with GPLed code?
> > > How do you feel about having pro-GPL operating system? Why do you lie to
> > > your users by having 'BSD' in operating system's name?
> >
> > Your analogy does not apply at all:
> [...]
> Unfortunately you miss the point of my analogy. We have GPLed code. We
> would like to get rid of it, but this is not possible just yet. Does
> that automatically means that we are pro-GPL? That we lie having 'BSD'
> in OS name? No, it means this is one of our goals, it is just not high
> priority and we don't feel guilty. This is how it is. The same for
> binary-only drivers. We would love to have everything open-source, but
> this is not possible currently. We want to move in this direction, of
> course, but we also want our users to use their hardware, to have
> stable, scalable OS, etc. I'm one of those users with my atheros-based
> wireless card I'm using right now. I know what I'm doing. I don't feel
> less safe. I don't audit every single driver I use. And I'm happy to use
> OS which gives me the choice.
> Hearing all those insults from Theo about all those great BSD people is
> just sad. Sam Leffler is one of the most valuable open-source developers
> in the history of BSD and UNIX in general, keep that in mind. I just
> can't belive how easy people forget about all this. Ah, right, this is
> called fanaticism.
> --
> Pawel Jakub Dawidek             
> pjd at                 
> FreeBSD committer                         Am I Evil? Yes, I Am!
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