allBSD's "Stop the Blob" Campaign

Jona Joachim walkingshadow at
Mon Mar 19 03:23:29 UTC 2007

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:52:30 +0100
Daniel Seuffert <DS at> wrote:

> Jona Joachim schrieb:
> > On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:47:46 +0100
> > des at (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) wrote:
> > 
> >> Jan Husar <jan.husar at> writes:
> >>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des at> writes:
> >>>> OK.  That's a clear trademark violation.  I expect AllBSD will be
> >>>> hearing from the FreeBSD Foundation's lawyers...
> >>> What this suppose to mean?  Allbsd is doing a pretty awesome job!
> >> No matter how good a job they do, they still have to follow the
> >> law.
> > 
> > What makes you say they violated the law? I'm quite sure some
> > people of the FreeBSD Foundation were shown this before it was made
> > public.
> > 
> > Jona
> Sure, allBSD has permission to use the Freebsd logo etc. and we use it
> on labels, flyers etc. for years and we are following every advice Deb
> Godkin has given us and I frequently mail him to take care everything
> is done according to the policy the FreeBSD foundation has.
> If somebody is irritated here: Yes, FreeBSD uses Blobs, but a lot of
> people don't think this is a good idea (to promote that use). This
> campaign is about telling people why Blobs are bad and why we need
> support for freely available documentation. The upcoming flyer will
> explain all the details. This poster is just the beginning please
> don't forget.
> Nobody told you Blobs are forbidden or FreeBSD should abandon all
> Blobs etc. You are the user, you are the one responsible for your
> machines. If you want to use Blobs please use them. That's the Free
> in FreeBSD contrary to the policy of OpenBSD and nobody wants to
> change that  ;-)

Hi Daniel!
I followed the discussion on openbsd-misc, that's why I started this
thread, to hear what the FreeBSD folks have to say about it.
It's really unfortunate that FreeBSD-GENERIC ships with that whole
bunch of blobs IMHO. Open source projects that distribute proprietary
software bite their own tail.
I think we agree on the fact that blobs are bad and a lot of other
FreeBSD users share that same opinion.
It would be interesting to hear what the leaders of the projects have
to say about this. Is it more important to support hardware than to
claim the right for free documentation? Are there other interests
Finally I'd like to remind everyone of the fact that not buying
undocumented hardware is a good way to fight it.


"I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists
build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns
laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you
are free." Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord & Confusion
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