advocacy/89731: TOO MANY SPAMs on jp.freebsd.org's mailing list

[Takeo Hashimoto]

The following reply was made to PR advocacy/89731; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: takeo at ss.jip.co.jp (Takeo Hashimoto)
To: jhb at freebsd.org, postmaster at jp.FreeBSD.org
Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org, hashimototakeo at mac.com,
	freebsd-gnats-submit at freebsd.org, takeo at ss.jip.co.jp
Subject: Re: advocacy/89731: TOO MANY SPAMs on jp.freebsd.org's mailing list
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:12:09 +0900

 Hi all.
 
 # Sorry from another 'from' address,
 # but I am the sender of advocacy/89731.
 
 On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:28:31 -0500
 John Baldwin wrote:
 >On Tuesday 29 November 2005 12:36 pm, Takeo Hashimoto wrote:
 >> >Description:
 >>
 >> there are too many spams on jp.freebsd.org's mailing list.
 >> - newbie can not find any kind of know-how from ML archive site.
 >> - almost expert user are disappointed at miserable state of community.
 >> - oldie does not think about mass happiness.
 >> - once you post article to lists, spammer get your address from archive.
 >> - waste network traffic and server resource.
 >> - distinct honor of "FreeBSD is a freedom for spammer"
 >
 >Note that FreeBSD.org doesn't administer the services on jp.FreeBSD.org.
 >Instead, jp.FreeBSD.org is delegated to a separate group that manages all of
 >the resources for jp.FreeBSD.org including DNS, mailing lists, etc.  You need
 >to contact the folks there via postmaster at jp.FreeBSD.org.  Note also that
 >spam is an unfortunate reality and that there is only so much that a public
 >mailing list run by volunteers in their spare time can do.
 >
 >--
 
 I know that jp.FreeBSD.org is just one of sub domain
 of FreeBSD.org, and FreeBSD.org doesn't administer it,
 and FreeBSD.org doesn't have a fault about this.
 
 But spam damages FreeBSD own honor.
 I think that this is a whole FreeBSD problem, and
 I think that only FreeBSD.org can make jp.FreeBSD.org change.
 # so I did send-pr.
 
 Of course I know the admins of jp.freebsd.org are busy.
 I respect thier volunteer mind, but sorry to say,
 the way admin do it is arbitrary.
 I think transparency and democracy is necessary
 for a decision on will, like a core team.
 
 OK, we can protect our mailbox by some filter. but spam
 pollutes ML archive (on the web) and spammer can get more
 reachable addresses. That is not an individual problem.
 that is a matter of ML management policy.
 and it should be changed to get happiness of the majority.
 
 Admins are volunteer, and they don't have much time,
 so we have to search the solution which get the biggest
 effect by the minimum cost.
 
 I think "restrict_post" is the answer.
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