Assuming We Want FreeBSD to Grow: Who Is It For?

[Julian H. Stacey]

Sander Vesik wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:12:26 +0100, Julian H. Stacey <jhs at berklix.org> wrote:
> > Sander Vesik wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:33:22 +0100, Julian H. Stacey <jhs at berklix.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Much hot air on advocacy@ does not qualify.  Let's
> > > >         - Tell people to move to chat at freebsd.org.
> > > >         - Report offenders to postmaster at freebsd.org for blocking.
> > > >         - Request postmaster at freebsd.org appends to list definition:
> > > >             "Not for arguing about what FreeBSD is or where it should go."
> > > >           (developers on current@ etc, are unpaid, & advocacy@ people
> > > >           have no right to direct what FreeBSD is & will be.)
> > >
> > > I think its hould be slightly more openly worded - for example,
> > > discussions (i mean rational discussions with technical details) of
> > > what FreeBSD is may be in some warranted - consider for example
> > > producing materials to promote the use of FreeBSD in embedded systems
> > > or similar.
> > 
> > OK, fine. Could you (or someone else) please suggest exact words to
> > replace current http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy
> >         Furthering the Use of FreeBSD. Share ideas and plan to
> >         increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD.
> > Once a number of us back a tighter list definition, we can send
> > it to postmaster at freebsd.org to request it be the official list definition.
> > .. & then use it to tell windy people to go to chat@ or be blocked off list.
> > Thanks
> 
> How about something along the lines of:
> 
>      Furthering the Use of FreeBSD. Share ideas and plan to increase
> the number of
>      companies and individuals using FreeBSD. Discussion of the
> technical, govrenance
>      or policy aspects of FreeBSD, its community and development
> should only happen
>      for clarifying said details for some document being written.
> 
> ? The wording probably needs some more polish though. 

If brief is beautiful :-)  ... Instead of current
	http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy
how about inserting:
	To promote FreeBSD by supporting external advocacy.
	Not for advocating change within FreeBSD, for which 
	use eg: `send-pr`, current@, www@, webmaster@, chat at .

If people could support that ?  It could limit the windy.

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