SPAM: Score 4.0: Logo contest, and lessons from the XFree86 d ebacle

Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg listsub at
Mon Feb 14 09:21:49 PST 2005

Astrodog wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:54:07 +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
> <listsub at> wrote:
>>Johnson David wrote:
>>>From: Farid Hajji [mailto:farid.hajji at]
>>>>Remember what happened with the XFree86 project as they choose
>>>>to change their license terms without community support? Now
>>>>we have and most relevant developers moved there, just
>>>>because XFree86's Mgmt failed to address the community's
>>>>concerns appropriately.
>>>This is completely different from the current controversy. XFree86 had been
>>>gaining a reputation for quite a while. The licensing switch was merely "the
>>>last straw". The logo issue is very different. Beastie is not going away, as
>>>has been mentioned by numerous posts and clarifications. The logo is
>>>something new, as FreeBSD does not currently have one (neither does OpenBSD
>>>or Linux, BTW).
>>Linux has no logo? Nor OpenBSD? Really?
>>So what is that red hat I see on Or the gecko
>>looking thing on SuSe? Or the whirl thing on Debian? And the
>>blowfish over at Mandrake seems to have a yellow
>>star with a blue tail somehow associated to almost everything it
>>If all of the above mentioned isnt logos, then I sure as hell
>>dont know what a logo is.
>>The daemon is to BSD what the penguin is to linux. All of the
>>linux distributions have grasped this years ago and created logos
>>of their own, used individually or together with the penguin
>>without even the slightest problems. But look what happened when
>>someone suggested that maybe we should get a logo too. A never
>>ending flamefest on every mailinglist!
>>We may have better software then the penguin people, but when it
>>comes to marketing they beat the shit out of us.
>>Lets face it. FreeBSD is so far behind *everything* when it comes
>>to marketing its not even funny.
> I would like to point out that Turbo-Linux, BeOS, and OS/2, are all
> currently marketed worse than FreeBSD. ;)

And afaik, both BeOS and OS/2 are dead.
None of them died because of inferior quality or lack of innovation.


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