The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far....

Devon H. O'Dell dodell at
Sun Feb 13 01:39:38 PST 2005

--------- Original Message --------
From: Erich Dollansky <oceanare at>
To: Paul A. Hoadley <paulh at>
Cc: freebsd-advocacy at
Subject: Re: The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far....
Date: 13/02/05 07:01

> Hi,
> Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
> &gt; On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 02:30:59PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; are you really saying that you have had experiences where FreeBSD was
> &gt; rejected when it became clear that the project was steered by a small
> &gt; group of developers elected from a larger group of developers?  That
> &gt; is, was the rejection based on a description of the core group
> &gt; specifically, or some larger issue of support?
> &gt;
> &gt;
> I think with all that snipping - also done by me - my point got turned
> to something very different.
> The point is the lack of a company supporting FreeBSD like IBM does for
> Linux, is a reason for companies not to take FreeBSD as they cannot turn
> back to that company if things go wrong.
> All the potential user sees is currently this small group called 'core'
> which is obviously to small to give the same support like IBM - or any
> other huge company - could give.
> Even if the support would be locally handled by some small company, the
> potential customer just wants to be able to call the big boy in case
> something goes the wrong way.

We (OffMyServer) do commercially support FreeBSD for our customers.
Commercially supporting every FreeBSD user is just not possible, though I
know that wasn't your point.

I just want to point out that there _are_ several companies out there who
have interest in commercially supporting FreeBSD.

> As mentioned before, I know that FreeBSD became what it is because core
> exists.
> Erich


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