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Mon Mar 8 22:48:49 PST 2004
--- dashevil at sympatico.ca wrote:
> > From: peter lageotakes <plageotakes at yahoo.com>
> > Date: 2004/03/08 Mon AM 02:46:20 EST
> > To: dashevil at sympatico.ca
> > Subject: Re: Desktop FreeBSD
> > Hello,
> > I do agree to an extent with the points that you
> > addressing.
> > 1)Desktop *nix is a mistake.
> > In general I agree with this statement, however;
> > giving users a choice instead of forcing them to
> > some commercial OS and going through the pains of
> > getting a refund (or building your own system).
> > 2) Terms like "sucks" should be avoided. Agreed.
> > 3) Corporate Desktops / Technical Workstations:
> > would be an excellent market segment for a *nix
> > platform, however; the use of proprietary file
> > still prohibits the adoption or widespread use of
> > *nix. This has to be approached in a different
> > such as promoting universal file format(s)?
> Promoting universal file formats would probably be a
> waste of time. The people who make money of their
> programs WANT you to be locked into them. They will
> not support something that allows their userbase to
> migrate that easy.
> > 4) *BSD as a desktop: Here are some projects that
> > might be of interest:
> > http://www.ekkobsd.org/
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/easyos/
> > Interview with Rick Collette of the EkkoBSD
> > Interesting desktop/server discussion with mention
> > a new installer.
> I've looked at ekkobsd, and well. Right now it's
> just OpenBSD with a new name and a bunch of services
> enabled by default.
> I don't see them actually contributing anything to
> the source base, and with that I don't understand
> why they are using the name 'EkkoBSD'. Too much
> OpenBSD isn't the best choice for a desktop, as it
> is the slowest of the BSDs. FreeBSD with ULE is
> DEFINATELY the way to go.
> When EkkoBSD comes out with its GUI installer I'll
> definately want to have another look. I still think
> that their 'enable everything' methodology is wrong.
> > FreeBSD has an excellent package for a workstation
> > the ports collection: instant-workstation-1.0_5
> > I have not personnaly used that package, however;
> > examining the requirements for the package to get
> > installed, it does contain a great deal of tools
> > utilities that would make it an excellent
> > for a workstation on any corporate desktop.
> > Is popularity a means to attract Users, Developers
> > Commercial Support? Is this the avenue that you
> > pursuing? Just a little curious, just for argument
> > sake.
> Popularity is a means to attract Users, Developers,
> and Commerical Support (although this one is
> definately last in my list). FreeBSD is just such a
> capable and amazing OS, it bothers me everytime I
> see someone turn down the chance to learn/use it
> because it was seen as too difficult to setup/use.
> Again, I'm not asking that we change the existing
> FreeBSD layout, but merely make an additional CD
> that was specifically geared towards workstations.
> Besides, Linux exploited the fact that BSD was in a
> legal battle back in the day, what reason do we have
> to not take back what was rightfully ours? :)
> > Pete
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I do agree that FreeBSD is an amazing Operating System
and would be a great way to go for a desktop system.
Various *BSD have their strengths. I referenced
EkkoBSD for a potential installer, just tossing out
some ideas. Please keep in mind that I do enjoy the
current installer, I wouldn't change it.
I still have to disagree about file formats which
equate to vendor lock-in (IMHO). I will also agree
that a little more publicity wouldn't hurt anything
either. Being more in the public could do some
benefit to the community.
Once again these are only my opinions.
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