FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

Nikolas Britton freebsd at
Mon Dec 27 18:46:04 PST 2004

Frank Pawlak wrote:

> This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost 
> periodic basis for the past several years.  There have been several 
> attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this 
> author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest.  It has 
> been a few years since I have posted to this news group but my advise 
> to you is to give it up.  You will only meet with much frustration, 
> apathy, and something along the lines of " if you don't like it fix it 
> yourself".

I say we keep on rehashing this everyday until someone does it just to 
shut us up. ;-) Has there ever been an attempt at forming a group so us 
like minded people "can" fix it ourselfs?

> I consider this very unfortunate, because has some commercial 
> properties that could well be more attractive than other OS'S.  The 
> development team just is not interested in this issue.  I have fought 
> many a battle in years past over marketing issues with members of the 
> core team and others.  OK, everyone lets see you flame throwers.....  
> Wes Petters, Jordan Hubbard, are you out there....;-)
> Frank
> At 06:57 PM 12/27/2004, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote:
>> Simon Burke wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the 
>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>   website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
>>>>   purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a 
>>>> redesign
>>>>   could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without 
>>>> being
>>>>   ugly.
>>> Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to
>>> do. Also i actually like how it looks.
>>> A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all
>>> dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to
>>> navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics
>>> really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they
>>> would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you
>>> have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites.
>> This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the 
>> problem.
>> Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the 
>> flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to 
>> have today. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to 
>> improve the website. Why?
>> Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or 
>> similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation 
>> knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid 
>> stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as 
>> a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming 
>> towards the nearest linux advocate instead.
>> We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be 
>> taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about 
>> it!
>> [snip]
>>>> 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead
>>>>   available to all that support this project.
>>> I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont
>>> understand
>> Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation.
>> -- 
>> R
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