Brilliant and very useful for FreeBSD, IMHO

Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg listsub at
Mon Apr 7 01:26:05 PDT 2003

This is a reply to this entire thread, not just the original posting.

The original question was "does FreeBSD currently meet this users goals?"
I would have to say no, it probably does not. But I think the real 
question is "do we want it to meet this users goal?"

Im a big fan of FreeBSD. I use it every day. I have converted half of 
my coworkers from religions such as Sun, Linux, NT or Novell to 
FreeBSD. I try to help out on mailinglists and forums whenever I get 
the time and know the answers. I buy every release on CD eventhough 
most of them are still shrinkwrapped and never used. Basically, Im 
just one of the regular die-hard BSD fanatics you all know and love(?) ;).
Still, my desktop runs XP. My laptop runs XP. My computer at work runs 
w2k. They are workstations. I use them to read email, browse the web 
and play games. I want them to show me pretty colorfull icons and do 
all the thinking for me. When I go home or go to bed, I turn them off.
FreeBSD could probably do this for me, and in fact, a few of them do 
dualboot to fbsd even if its extremely rare. It would require a lot 
more time and tweaking to get things setup correctly if I had to run 
FreeBSD all the time. With Windows I just point and click a few times 
and things happen.  So what if I have to format and reinstall 
everything everytime the guys in Redmond decide to change the color of 
the gui, I have absolutely nothing of importance on my workstations. 
Everything with even the slightest bit of value is safely tucked away 
on a fileserver somewhere. All my mails are stored on a IMAP server. 
My documentation is on the intranet website and my source code in the 
cvs repository. Guess what os all those servers run? It aint windows.

FreeBSD is the most stable and reliable os I ever experienced, and I 
have tested most of them. Sun might give it a good fight, but then 
again Sun requires the budget of a small country where FreeBSD is one 
of very few os's that are truely free, both in price and license.
The financial department loves FreeBSD's pricetag, the techies loves 
its ease of maintanance and upgrading, and I sleep well at night 
knowing my servers will keep running forever without glitches.
I love FreeBSD, but not even I would get the idea to run it as a 
desktop. It's not good at it, and if someone asks for my opinion, I 
hope it never will be.
Even Microsoft have realised that it takes a different os to run a 
server then a desktop. They have a plethora of different editions, 
like XP Home Edition and W2K Advanced Server. As long as FreeBSD 
excels on servers, chances are it will not make a perfect desktop.
I say we have enough desktop os's, lets keep FreeBSD kicking ass on 
the servers.


Gregory A. Gilliss wrote:
> This was posted on
> I would recommend that *everyone* read this today (Sunday) and ask your-
> selves whether the current FreeBSD distro (4.x or 5.x) meets the goals
> set out by this study?  We've all seen the excreta of these and many other
> frustrations in the list archives.  Can the FreeBSD core team address
> some of these issues and *market* the results to make FreeBSD a more
> worthwhile upgrade path than *any* Linux distro?  I patently hope so!
> Pls cc: me as I am not currently subscribed.  Thanx.
> G

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