cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.include.dist BSD.usr.dist src/include Makefile src/lib Makefile src/lib/libatm Makefile atm_addr.c cache_key.c ioctl_subr.c ip_addr.c ip_checksum.c libatm.h timer.c src/rescue/rescue Makefile src/sbin/atm Makefile ...

Doug Rabson dfr at
Mon May 26 09:04:15 UTC 2008

On 26 May 2008, at 00:34, Bruce M. Simpson wrote:

> Tony Finch wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2008, Bruce M. Simpson wrote:
>>> ATM shows no signs of going away as a WAN access technology for  
>>> people in the
>>> UK, although its use in the core outside of British Telecom is  
>>> being eroded by
>>> newer technologies.
>> Doesn't BT's 21cn mean the death of ATM there too?
> The G.998.1 part of ADSL2+ still mandates ATM as the transport.  
> Given how BT tend to roll things it out I would speculate that they  
> are still using ATM after 21CN migration, although I have no data to  
> confirm this either way.
> PPPoA is not going away any time soon -- it's written into the ITU  
> specs for G.DMT-lite after all -- and there is a huge installed user  
> base for that technology.
> Whatever happens with 21CN is still going to take time to filter  
> down to the rest of the populace. Also, someone's going to have to  
> pay for it somehow.
> Of course the whole ruckus over ATM in ADSL with people in the first  
> place, was that it locked them into using vendor gear, effectively  
> denying people control over their own IP endpoint address, and  
> restricting the services they can use as a result.

I recently was able to reclaim my IP endpoint address(es) using a  
cheap Netgear DM111P in PPPoE to PPPoA bridge mode. Works very nicely...

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