cvs commit: src/etc/rc.d

Doug Barton dougb at
Thu Oct 11 08:58:29 PDT 2007

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> Doug Barton <dougb at> writes:
>> I'm not opposed to that idea (in fact I seriously considered it) but
>> the reason I didn't do it is that I don't have a good sense of why we
>> need it. Once again as Mike pointed out, the reason that it was there,
>> and the reason it was .sh was specifically to do what we're now trying
>> to avoid, since whatever benefits there may have been don't outweigh
>> the risks.
> So you remove functionality that others depend on simply because you
> don't understand it and / or don't need it yourself?

Um, no. That's not at all what I said, and I don't appreciate you 
mischaracterizing what I did say. Also, please keep in mind that I'm not 
suggesting we remove it until RELENG_8 branches, so we have plenty of time 
to find the right answer here.

> You didn't even bother to ask on freebsd-rc.

It was discussed there at the time that I added support for local scripts 
in the overall boot order. The period of time between now and then is 
longer than I would have liked, but life happens.

>> I was unaware of the use of this script suggested in gmirror(8) until
>> Dmitry pointed it out to me, and that usage should really be converted
>> to a proper rc.d script.
> It's not the kind of thing that lends itself well to being formalized in
> that manner.

I disagree with you on that, and I plan to submit a script that does what 
I have in mind for the people familiar with gmirror to test.

> This is precisely why we have rc.early and rc.local: so people who have 
> special (perhaps one-off) needs can do special (perhaps one-off) things 
> without jumping through too many hoops.

No one is suggesting removing rc.local, and I would vigorously oppose 
doing so.

As I said in my last message, if users respond to the deprecation warning 
with a request not to remove it, we can convert it to being a regular rc.d 
script. That way it's only a little dangerous instead of being super 
dangerous and potentially fatal.

I can't help but think that you're having a knee-jerk reaction to 
something that at the end of the day is not that big of a deal. I would 
suggest that perhaps taking a step back and gaining some perspective might 
be a useful exercise at this point.



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