cvs commit: ports/editors/openoffice-1.1 Makefile

Oliver Eikemeier eikemeier at fillmore-labs.com
Mon Mar 15 11:06:02 PST 2004


Peter Schultz wrote:

> Oliver Eikemeier wrote:
> 
>> Nakata Maho wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to come up with a patch and port it for review,
>>>> than using the FreeBSD CVS for development?
>>>
>>> No. currently I cannot do it. Since OOo is huge port, comparable to
>>> entire FreeBSD sourcecode. Maintaining this port is extremely difficult
>>> if there's no such kind of thing (e.g., patch without IssueZilla 
>>> ticket),
>>> we are soon confused what are committed or what aren't.
>>>
>>> My standpoint is reduce OOo patches to build as far as 
>>> possible(remember,
>>> there were over 120 patches to build), however, still we have many 
>>> (minor or major) problems, so we have ~10 patches. IMHO, development 
>>> speed of OOo is extremely fast. to catch up with it, such kind
>>> of things are quite necessary.
>>
>> How about a private CVS repository, like gnome, kde or many other 
>> projects
>> have? You leave FreeBSD useres without a working OpenOffice.org port, and
>> I can't really see the benefits of your approach.
> 
> Hey!  I'm just grateful the guy is doing this work, and you should be 
> too.  You can install the binary package or even create the private 
> repository for him, but to criticize him for doing work on this 
> *incredibly complex* port is just simply WRONG.

Creating a private repository should be easy. If <http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/>
won't provide one and sourceforge is inadequate I'll be happy to help out.

But you don't get my point: I don't criticize for doing work on this port, I 
just question if this is the best way to do it. 24 ports have been marked 
'IGNORE', and this affects a lot of users. Furthermore we won't notice if any 
changes in the ports tree will break the OpenOffice ports. I guess you can 
imagine that both points are of importance for the FreeBSD OpenOffice 
community, and this breakage is easy to avoid.

> Please restrain yourself!  We're lucky he's committing the time and 
> energy to work on this.  If you can't put a positive spin on your 
> comments, i.e. "I will help you with this" or, "let me know what I can 
> do," just sit quiet like the rest of us.

No reason to get upset. I guess the suggestion to move development to an 
private repository is `a positive spin', and should normally ease development 
a lot, since you don't collide with other commits, have more freedom for 
development and have a broader audience for testing. The cited projects 
(gnome, kde) are not small either and pretty successful with this approach.

I tend to see the ports tree as a whole, and hopeful this is beneficial
for the `rest of us' too.

-Oliver


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