cvs commit: src/etc/etc.amd64 ttys src/etc/etc.arm ttys src/etc/etc.i386 ttys src/etc/etc.ia64 ttys src/etc/etc.mips ttys src/etc/etc.powerpc ttys src/etc/etc.sparc64 ttys

Ed Schouten ed at 80386.nl
Sun Aug 24 08:36:25 UTC 2008


* Robert Watson <rwatson at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Ed Schouten wrote:
>
>> * Robert Watson <rwatson at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>> So users using slightly old versions of screen, etc, shouldn't appear 
>>> in finger(1), w(1), or receive messages from biff(1), talk(1), 
>>> write(1), wall(1), shutdown(8), and dump(8), all of which (I believe) 
>>> rely on utmp(5) to determine who is logged in and where?  I'm sure 
>>> that quite a few of these are of diminishing significance in the 
>>> current world order (certainly biff is), but I'm not convinced that 
>>> we should exclude users on historic tty devices from receiving 
>>> advance notice of system shutdowns or dump events.
>>
>> Right now we're actually digging up the entire dynamic vs static 
>> linkage discussion again. If people run a dynamically linked version of 
>> screen, xterm, etc, they are not affected (except libc.so.6 of course).
>
> I'm not sure I see such a tight congruence: historical applications don't 
> use the POSIX PTY calls, since they didn't exist or were unreliably 
> implemented for many years.  Instead, applications embedded the pty 
> allocation policy in the same way they embed the BPF allocation policy, 
> which is to search a series of hard-coded names until they find a match.
>
>> The current /etc/ttys already seemed like an improvement when compared 
>> to the old one, where we spent 2 out of 3 entries on commonly unused 
>> PTY names. What kind of ratio do you propose?
>
> For 256 lines in /etc/ttys, you can keep people's systems working with 
> older applications.  Doesn't seem like a big sacrifice -- it's not like 
> we're forcing Giant to be kept on part of the kernel, etc.

Okay. Sounds okay. That means we've basically switched the priorities.
First we had:

- 512 entries for pty(4)
- 256 entries for pts(4)

Now we're going to switch it to:

- 256 entries for pty(4)
- 512 entries for pts(4)

I'll only add the entries for tty[pqrsPQRS].

-- 
 Ed Schouten <ed at 80386.nl>
 WWW: http://80386.nl/
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