From nobody Sun Sep 10 18:52:38 2023 X-Original-To: xfce@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RkJr6109Hz4scQ6 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RkJr56Fzlz4rX2 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1694371957; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=l5n+RgO22h5EsKZ6DtXlvFjlDMfkOKEHYpZniXB2P4j7UySknxqGQ+QwtUj/Hdhn+sn2He T0IOHamqxAbqvSnCyxjoONBN+rH77pCCx5ZyiApoC5pG975aKPj0fFcmn/ifA4jcym2B/V b+xhLi0m/bJzYzOfbdsNQem0vkR+rktFn4y9G3fy1SYt970v7q3Qqx4VlxoRixB7TzS8dp jH5Cn6nKHhT9TBOSsgTbjBo2RvNvGja8DbiRJ3Un14hyHsI2alK0B9eBv+BKIqa0GHUQYs fB8MsyfxCWxyxyPitbDB7QSro77M1Y2PrwHBNIM/L1UiQkY+2DIPmwl2EyLzYQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1694371957; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=x0eOXB7sgFdDN30LkFqfyHafiJliKrF2j5UsGR9hVZk=; b=NyK2VIk0kHSw+KHyJZv09MvMK1VDvOpkIuHQzOWoRestBcyUcn22Byb2MB/uJPeLTLG8lM FZW+5ioyhe+sgSbYIZT9gbLly7nx072DacA9UF4krgTxo8J5SUf5Ktg0kaClYTNPSwg/Ya zT20JDzPoppP5Y8uXKvs1PWiWpCTq7o7FwUf+sQjtUeJvhPrbQcKSw3K0S3vPN7OJfbDxN 2zmu0Df94deGzevQjZXa4IgxiAjfJyB12A/Tmqhqlgk54jz/0ByeDixlg5cUPKJLAXhFmz 7XoZmgLVUqg7PoaD16t+bFzkT+nJkO/3CzW14O6lHi/mHyCMGTYyqeqiOW5l9g== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RkJr55LxMz3kV for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 38AIqbgm097319 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:37 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 38AIqbXD097318 for xfce@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:37 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: xfce@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 273697] deskutils/xfce4-tumbler: no HEIF support by default Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:52:38 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: madpilot@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: xfce@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: XFCE List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-xfce List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D273697 --- Comment #12 from Guido Falsi --- (In reply to Anton Saietskii from comment #10) I'm sorry you had to do so much research on this. On the other hand dependencies are not a tool for simple convenience. As I = said one thing is having a run dependency on another port that is a part of the = same project and specifically created to serve that purpose and work together wi= th some other software. In this case we are talking about unrelated software providing functionality through a common plugin system. I understand it would be convenient for you to have a direct dependency with libheif to get the plugin installed. But if I accepted this logic I should = also add a dependency on multimedia/totem, graphics/mypaint or cad/freecad (or o= ne of the few other ports already in the tree, or any new port, happening to provide a .thumnailer file). The properties of the heif file format are non consequential to this, and I cannot risk adding the dependency, forcing that on a lot of users, one of w= hich could complain (it has happened, FreeBSD users are very conservative about dependencies usually) [1] I'll propose a new patch shortly updating pkg-message, with details about t= his plugin mechanism so the fact is at least documented somewhere in the projec= t.=20 Actual upstream documentation is already available at [2], although it does= not talk specifically about heif format, which is just one in many to them, I guess. [1] I agree my question on what makes it special missed the point, which is= not "what makes it good", but "what makes it so important, in relation to xfce4-tumbler, as a dependency to be necessary to force other users to inst= all it as a dependency all of a sudden" [2] https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/tumbler/available_plugins --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.=