From nobody Sun Jun 27 11:55:32 2021 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4BD11CCD11 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GCThR2Bvtz3rX6 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1624794933; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Zq1vQ2VGFz2OFFWyurkffUvytY0=; b=lmIQMFoNS7UFc3TAhR9OfzgYMwB5G1SJOQv5p2k0cv+X6G5ChKEiFmgkx1bykU/B nAI+0daIboIO3vQW6WnAK0WjtcmDNazV/H4M7mCyzET+JoHx038fPYCH3NZh1Hwh eIujYJWbUbS2ns5VHgNivNrsO5b7GKad24IxAm7fFlLeQJ4jqG87o+54F54IiEs2 ZQxBsb0VIcoS2N4+vFPuW1+4YnkGNWc6CppLiyp47aN1xGjSvHtNPzrgoqJGm66g LTQa4P0hCiWk3DOrvoNLQXf6KAlAYzzNEINlLDVnyuHiD6BgU0cdGxpGniQSmZjd ppUQNePL0cZP8K4pyqvTBw==; X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [130.44.129.206] ([130.44.129.206:14461] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id C7/25-16719-53768D06; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 07:55:33 -0400 List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24792.26420.394563.785764@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 07:55:32 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: questions@freebsd.org CC: x11@freebsd.org, Greg V Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? In-Reply-To: References: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <24790.13300.679983.900189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <778F35B8-10F3-4D4D-8200-A235FD9A0762@unrelenting.technology> <24791.42526.208238.436624@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 27.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfeehvddggeeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuufgjpfetvefqtfdptfevpfdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepgggtgffkfffhvffujghfofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhhtucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhesrhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnheptddtleektefhgeeggfevleeugedvleduheeuuedvgeejiedvffeiffeftefhgfeunecukfhppedufedtrdeggedruddvledrvddtieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedufedtrdeggedruddvledrvddtiedphhgvlhhopehjvghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhushdrohhrghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhfsehrtghnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepqhhuvghsthhiohhnshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghdphhhoshhtpehsmhhtphdrrhgtnhdrtghmhhdrshihnhgrtghorhdrtghomhdpshhpfhepshhofhhtfhgrihhlpdgukhhimheppdetuhhthhdqfghsvghrpehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffh X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GCThR2Bvtz3rX6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Greg: > > b) I have a very limited budget, and would ideally like to be > > able to use this on older systems - say ones with a PCIe 2.0 > > expansion slot. > > No conflict here: PCI Express generations are all backward and > forward compatible. You can run the newest gen4 cards in gen2 > slots just fine (obviously at gen2 bandwidth). As Johnny Carson used to say: "I did not know that." So now I'm back to the question: what is the earliest GCN version actively supported by amdgpu and drm(-kmod/-current-kmod)? More correctly: where is this documented? I can look it up myself. Respectfully, Robert Huff