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Berner" , Muhammad Moinur Rahman Cc: tex@freebsd.org, "ports@freebsd.org" References: From: Kubilay Kocak In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JsbPp6dfrz4rhM X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=oXEkczfg; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of koobsfreebsd@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::635 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=koobsfreebsd@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.56 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.74)[-0.738]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.624]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::635:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[tex,ports]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 1/02/2022 5:11 am, Tobias C. Berner wrote: > Moin moin > > Please ship it, before the tree moves again too much for it to apply. > Marking 10-12 ports as broken is fine. +1 Set IGNORE and forward your OP to maintainers of said ports. Our TEX stack is way behind with few people motivated to assess/update it from first principles. Include the rationale (and "cat/port: why") details in the tex update commit log message so its easy for people to grok what to do next. > > mfg Tobias > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 18:57, Muhammad Moinur Rahman wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have been able to port TEX 2021 but there are some failures and caveats which I wanted to discuss with the community. I have checked only the ports that has USE_TEX in their Makefile : >> >> What changed and what are the failures: >> 1. cslatex support has been DEPRECATED upstream >> 2. print/tex-aleph has been removed as upstream has also removed it >> 3. Fails to build >> - databases/bbdb (Last release was on 2018) >> - misc/latex-mk (Last release was on 2010) >> - textproc/dblatex (The location of the required file has changed can be easily patched) >> - textproc/bibtool (Someone with latex knowledge should be able to fix this) >> - print/sgf2tex (Last release was on 2001) >> - print/lgrind (Last release was on 2001) >> - print/muttprint (Last release was on 2008) >> - cad/alliance (Last release was on 2019) >> - math/asymptote (Should be able to fix this later with someone’s help who knows) >> 4. Dependents >> - print/lilypond{-devel} depends on textproc/dblatex but if we upgrade lilypond it will no longer require dblatex >> >> In case someone want to check the logs they are available here: >> http://pdr.bofh.network/jail.html?mastername=123-tex >> http://pdr.bofh.network/jail.html?mastername=123i386-tex >> http://pdr.bofh.network/jail.html?mastername=130-tex >> http://pdr.bofh.network/jail.html?mastername=MAIN-tex >> >> So my question is whether if we are okay with UPDATING to 2021 while these 10/12 ports are BROKEN/IGNORED? I am looking forward to move forward a bit faster as there are lots of files involved and the files changes every now and then and merging everytime is really painful with this big of a patchset. >> >> Thanks in advance for advices and flames. :D >> >> Kind Regards, >> Moin (bofh) >